Region3
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Patrick, do you consider this explanation of shot shaping to be OBFL, NBFL, or something else altogether?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN0wPnLYNy4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN0wPnLYNy4
My Study of OBFL versus NBFL
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G1BB0
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god knows but makes it sound a lot more bloody understandable than all them diagrams etc etc
Region3
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SocketRocket
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It's OBFL and is wrong. I am not suggesting Justin cant shape balls but he was taught in the USA where the USPGA teach the old incorrect ball flight laws. He does not do what he says though.
These two videos may help. The first is a discussion on the topic the other is an explanation of what happens with differing impact conditions.
I hope they help.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AlFVMmBLcQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnq6TiXw7wU&feature=related
bobmac
Major Champion
I think Gary wanted Patrick's thoughts on the Justin Rose video
SocketRocket
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Probably Bob, does that mean no one else can comment. Just trying to be helpful.
I thought he had given it though.
kid2
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Iv been reading away down through the posts and iv spat tea all over the place after reading that Smiff!.......:rofl::thup:
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sev112
Tour Winner
STOP PRESS
JUst had a thought
Where does shaft stiffness come in to this ?
Ho ho ho
JUst had a thought
Where does shaft stiffness come in to this ?
Ho ho ho
kid2
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STOP PRESS
JUst had a thought
Where does shaft stiffness come in to this ?
Ho ho ho
Im putting on the kettle......
bobmac
Major Champion
STOP PRESS
JUst had a thought
Where does shaft stiffness come in to this ?
Ho ho ho
Not to mention how the speed of the club may have an influence on how the swingpath affects the balls initial direction
sev112
Tour Winner
Not to mention how the speed of the club may have an influence on how the swingpath affects the balls initial direction
Oooh dangerous - you are just a plain trouble maker
Evryone knows that a slowly hit ball doesnt spin
(actually... there might be something in that ....?!)
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
Not to mention how the speed of the club may have an influence on how the swingpath affects the balls initial direction
Really Bob. Please explain, I am interested.
Region3
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Everyone is welcome to comment, and yours Brian is one of the opinions I take seriously, but I was just trying to get clarification from Patrick.
Unless I've missed it in the plethora of otherwise 'politicised' posts, he has never agreed that the OBFL state to aim the face where you want the ball to finish.
Whether that is by accident or design I don't know.
It seems a bit odd to argue that the 2 schools of thought aren't that far apart if you don't understand what each is saying to begin with.
One Planer
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Did you read James' retort?
kid2
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SocketRocket
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It's just that I posted that same video of Justin Rose earlier in the thread and asked Patrick if he agreed with what Justin said, but true to form I got a bit of an indirect reply.
bobmac
Major Champion
Seriously lost interest now :angry:
Region3
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Sorry, hadn't noticed it had already been posted. I may have been slipping in and out of consciousness searching for 'the truth'.
SocketRocket
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Sorry, hadn't noticed it had already been posted. I may have been slipping in and out of consciousness searching for 'the truth'.
Its not difficult to sort out. At the range take a mid iron, make some shots with the clubface pointing straight ahead and try swinging out-to-in, In-to-out, by varing degrees. Try opening the face and swinging the same way, try closing the face and doing the same. You will soon find out what works and what doesn't.
Patrick57
Head Pro
As he is aligning his clubface to the target, it can't be OBFL.
And I know it not NBFL because his explanations aren't that complicated.
So its neither.
P.S. Am I right?
