ColchesterFC
Journeyman Pro
Send them back to France. That's where the final part of their journey to the UK started.
Migrant problem in Kent/Sussex
- Thread starter Taz
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Send them back to France. That's where the final part of their journey to the UK started.
Kellfire
Blackballed
Taking in foreigners who need help just wouldn’t be in our patriotic nature as an imperial force I guess - we conquer, we don’t protect. ROAR, LION. ROOOOOAAAAAR.
The original Dublin Accord stated that they were supposed to be sent back to the country they had just left. But I think that was dropped a while back as the French just wouldn’t accept them - not like the French to ignore an EU law. Quite what the current law is, who knows?
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
What part of that doesnt apply to France?
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
Do you have any solutions to this sad situation or do you only have condemnations much like those you condem.
Bunkermagnet
Journeyman Pro
I'm not an illegal immigrant lover, but perhaps we also need to look at those already on our shores who are native and who are happy to employ them as cheap labour to undercut others or get their own things done on the cheap.
If there's no demand or money for them they won't risk their life trying to get here.
If there's no demand or money for them they won't risk their life trying to get here.
Wolf
Well-known member
Many people are condemning France without the solution, so why shouldn't someone condemn far right propaganda merchants. No different to people condemning Boris, Sturgeon, Starmer et al, which is done daily. People are entitled to voice their opinions doesn't mean they have to have the solution.
The only solution to all this is governments working together and it being correctly controlled at both ends.
Kellfire
Blackballed
We should definitely take our cue from another nation acting without compassion, right enough. Maybe we should conquer France? The British Empire needs to start expanding again !
PaulS
Active member
Are these people fleeing countries that have been ripped apart by wars created by Western Countries of which the UK has had a big hand in.
Compassion for fellow human beings has long gone
Compassion for fellow human beings has long gone
It's a well established practice. The question is, does it work, is it effective? My suspicion is it is.
oxymoron
Club Champion
Do these immigrants not make landfall in another EU country before France ? I was under the impression they were supposed to be processed\registered\whatever in the first
country they land in .If so this is not purely a French\British problem ,do we need to look at Italy , Greece and the other areas the first land in ?
Just asking , hopefully without any right\left wing bias .
country they land in .If so this is not purely a French\British problem ,do we need to look at Italy , Greece and the other areas the first land in ?
Just asking , hopefully without any right\left wing bias .
Taz
Journeyman Pro
If its Syrian/Iranians , as is reported then the first place where this starts is Turkey, who are being paid, I beleive, to secure the border. Once they're through here it seems every EU country is happy to move them on.
The genuiune refugees seem happy to be processed but economic migrants just fund the traffikers and as this now seems to be a well publisiced and sucessful route expect the problem to get worse.
The genuiune refugees seem happy to be processed but economic migrants just fund the traffikers and as this now seems to be a well publisiced and sucessful route expect the problem to get worse.
Griffsters
Hacker
Like I said, it works remarkably well.
drdel
Tour Rookie
Will the UK be under the same obligations post Dec 31st?
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
I'll take that as a No then.
D
Deleted member 16999
Guest
Yes.
Griffsters
Hacker
I get the feeling you'll take things exactly the way that suits your existing bias. Fill yer boots.
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
France is in no way singularly responsible for this tragedy, they along with every other EU country the migrants pass through bury their heads in the sand and want the people to go away and be someone elses problem.
Regarding people condemning without a solution, surely if you want to condem politicians for example then you must be able to justify your condemnations and in doing so you have to say what they are doing wrong, if you cannot offer an alternative solution then how can you say they're wrong. Its like saying Corbyn critised the Governments spending policy but couldnt offer an alternative policy.
I agree with you the only solution to this is for Countries to work together and be committed to a solution, ecconomic migrants need to be returned to their countries where possible, those needing political asylum need their claims processing at the earliest opportunity and if found proven should be allocated a country to live in safely but it cannot be one of their choosing. World Governments need to be fully signed up to taking their quotas.
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
Funny that. I had exactly the same feeling about you and you just affirmed it.I get the feeling you'll take things exactly the way that suits your existing bias. Fill yer boots.
Griffsters
Hacker
So you've come to that conclusion because I posted that some clearly right wing media sources need to be thoroughly fact checked?
. I try to do the same with any media source, the ones I quoted are consistently biased, out of context or lacking significant detail. They should not be taken at face value. If that is not on your radar then there is no discussion, your mind is closed. Its as simple as that 
