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We run separate max score comps for 28> to give higher HCs chance to compete amongst themselves without the implications of a full medal.
How often will a scratch golfer get a 12 on a par 5? Real scratch golfers play consistently no more than a couple of strokes either side of scratch. Otherwise they couldn't maintain a scratch handicap.imagine a high handicapper gets 12 on a par 5, and has 3 shots. Now, if a scratch golfer does the same,
I was using scratch as a simple example. My index is 8.4, and I've had a couple of 10 pluses this year. Off top of my head, a mate under 5.0 had an 11. At our course, it is very very easy to have cricket scores on a hole. Miss the fairway, ball either lost, or only unplayable option is stroke and distance as nowhere to drop.How often will a scratch golfer get a 12 on a par 5? Real scratch golfers play consistently no more than a couple of strokes either side of scratch. Otherwise they couldn't maintain a scratch handicap.
Are you referring to comp results or the effect on handicap index?I was using scratch as a simple example. My index is 8.4, and I've had a couple of 10 pluses this year. Off top of my head, a mate under 5.0 had an 11. At our course, it is very very easy to have cricket scores on a hole. Miss the fairway, ball either lost, or only unplayable option is stroke and distance as nowhere to drop.
My point was, maximum score benefits a higher handicapper over a lower player, as they are effectively punished less for a bad hole in comparison to handicap
Comp results. No issue with impact on IndexAre you referring to comp results or the effect on handicap index?
I think your right.It's pretty clear that stableford and maximum score competitions favour higher handicaps rather than lower.
For me, the real debate is whether the positive effect that may have on high handicaps is greater than the negative effect it has on lower handicaps, ie if it suits the majority of members to play more stablefords than medals then fair enough. As long as there's a reasonable balance of comps throughout the season then I don't see any real grounds for complaint. Although making a lot of opens stableford, as our club has started to do, potentially opens the bandit can of worms right up...
Doesn't the 95% mitigate that?It's pretty clear that stableford and maximum score competitions favour higher handicaps rather than lower.
Jeepers, you didn’t even wait long enough to search for a lost ball on that one!Come on rules people. Where are you? I'm completely lost now! What the hell is going on?
The plot thickens.....
"Thanks for your email and I will consider your suggestion of a rules clarification email.
However, your playing partners are correct in that there is a local rule, in line with CONGU guidance, which allows a maximum score on a hole of PAR +5. The score entry forced this before WHS software changes and will again be incorporated into the software in the future."
This was from our H/C sec in response to my e mail questioning what had happened as outlines in my initial post.
Can this be right? Jesus Christ !!!!!!!!!
FFS! Read Post 2 - the very first reply!!!Come on rules people. Where are you? I'm completely lost now! What the hell is going on?
I think your right.
Our really low men are members at other courses and just don’t play In stablefords.
They play elsewhere in a medal.
Didn’t see the very high caps at first but they are getting top ten finishes now every week.........
It's pretty clear that stableford and maximum score competitions favour higher handicaps rather than lower.
FFS! Read Post 2 - the very first reply!!!
Re Stablefords
Divisions should mitigate that anyway. Where I play I am only competing against players with similar handicaps.
Wjemather proposed an entirely valid reason why you may have been confused - in Post 9 still the 1st page! Does your club use Club Sytstems (Club2000/HowDidIDo) software?...I thought I'd better. So I did, again. And you see that although RF has given an answer it's not what it APPEARED to be happening at my place.
I might suggest this. We have a huge seniors section who's H/C's have now lept up.
Not really there was still 189 players on Saturday.Could the higher handicappers' appearance in the top ten finishes have something to do with the low handicappers playing elsewhere?
Just asking
Could it have more to do with the slope of your course than stableford scoring?Not really there was still 189 players on Saturday.
No .Could it have more to do with the slope of your course than stableford scoring?