Matchplay Championships @ Forest of Arden

Old thread I know but had to post this.

My mate played in the AG 9 hole golf championships at the belfry a few weeks ago.

Guess who they beat in the semis - none other than Tom Muldoon. His handicap was 17

Seems nothing changes .
 
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MendieGK said:
Old thread I know but had to post this.

My mate played in the AG 9 hole golf championships at the belfry a few weeks ago.

Guess who they beat in the semis - none of the than Tom Muldoon. His handicap was 17

Seems nothing changes .
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He was on TT last week and they have him at 11 ?!
 
MendieGK said:
Old thread I know but had to post this.My mate played in the AG 9 hole golf championships at the belfry a few weeks ago. Guess who they beat in the semis - none other than Tom Muldoon. His handicap was 17Seems nothing changes .
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They won again!!! http://www.yourgolftravel.com/19th-...ut-how-it-all-panned-out-at-cornelia-diamond/Scored 48 points in the regional final to get to Turkey and then won the comp while in Turkey, where the prize was to play the Turkish Airlines Open Pro-Am.....guess what?? They won that too!! How do they get away with it?
 
I posted about picking TM and his partner out as winners when we were at the same venue for the Ladies version where my partner and I won our trip to Portugal. Whilst over there the organisers told us that other contestants for the men's event had queried his handicap.
In fairness to YGT, they contacted his club and they confirmed his handicap. We noticed that the club he had given was an away course for him and we tracked down his home course which YGT also contacted and they too confirmed his handicap. So there was not a lot the organisers could do even though they were suspicious. We even watched the TT show where him and his partner were playing.
 
louise_a said:
I posted about picking TM and his partner out as winners when we were at the same venue for the Ladies version where my partner and I won our trip to Portugal. Whilst over there the organisers told us that other contestants for the men's event had queried his handicap.
In fairness to YGT, they contacted his club and they confirmed his handicap. We noticed that the club he had given was an away course for him and we tracked down his home course which YGT also contacted and they too confirmed his handicap. So there was not a lot the organisers could do even though they were suspicious. We even watched the TT show where him and his partner were playing.
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Three qualifing cards per year to satisfy active HC then on the road picking up the prizes in the Non Q's

Perfect example of the need to increase the amount of qualifiers needed to keep active
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Perfect example of the need to increase the amount of qualifiers needed to keep active
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I don't see how that will help. Just a few more rounds not doing anything special.

What's needed is a way to ensure players do their best in the qualifiers they play in.

Impossible, unmanageable and unenforceable. Tilt, game over.

Sad really.
 
If the system was changed so that in team events everyone keeps an individual score and every tournament it gets submitted, including match play. This would stop long term banditry. It would be long winded though and would never happen.
 
Mitchell89 said:
If the system was changed so that in team events everyone keeps an individual score and every tournament it gets submitted, including match play. This would stop long term banditry. It would be long winded though and would never happen.
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It doesn't even need to be that complicated....a simple check of Google by he organisers would tell them all they needed to know.
After I contacted the Golf Care Matchplay organisers and told them why I was withdrawing from their tournament, and after they took on board other competitors concerns, they really thought about it and at least came up with a new clause that gave them the discretion to exclude someone, who in their opinion, their playing ability was much better than their handicap suggested. (I underlined the pertinent bit). It's just a shame none of the other comps have followed suite, and for me even more disappointing that none of golfs governing bodies have decided to intervene.
It really does leave a sour taste and leaves you wondering why they allow the minority to tarnish the game of golf and all its supposed to stand for.

6. To help preserve the integrity of The Matchplay Championship, the organisers’ reserve the right to disqualify a player or players from the tournament (in any category) in the event that the tournament committee determines, in its absolute discretion, that a player’s handicap is inaccurate (ie. higher) when compared with their actual playing ability.The tournament committee will determine whether a player’s handicap is inaccurate by taking into consideration any or all of the following:

1) handicap history review;
2) previous tournament/competition results;
3) current sanctions from any other national golf tournaments or from any County or National golf administrative bodies;
4) judgement on the relevance of completed competitions within the past 12 months;
5) complaints which are in the public domain and any other handicap inconsistencies that are brought to our attention.

Under this rule, if the tournament committee decides that a player or players should be disqualified from the tournament, the player or players will be notified accordingly and the tournament committee’s decision will be final. Any decision is totally discretionary and no negotiation or dialogue will be entered into. In the event of one of the above decisions being enforced then the player or players will be offered a full refund of their entry fee should they so wish.
 
Well that is a very grey area and it is hard to judge if people have done anything wrong. The case above looks quite clear cut but other golfers might be facing disqualification for a run of good form. Where will the line be drawn?

Instead if you keep individual scores it's black and white. E.g in a 4bbb competition team A scores 43 points. Player 1 had 40 points, player 2 had 30. Their handicaps can be adjusted accordingly.

In a match that finishes early a new ratio will have to be drawn up. E.g team 2 wins 4 and 3. Player 1 has 30 points through 15. Player 2 has 35. This would be changed to 36 points for player 1 and 42 points for player 2.
 
Mitchell89 said:
Well that is a very grey area and it is hard to judge if people have done anything wrong. The case above looks quite clear cut but other golfers might be facing disqualification for a run of good form. Where will the line be drawn?

Instead if you keep individual scores it's black and white. E.g in a 4bbb competition team A scores 43 points. Player 1 had 40 points, player 2 had 30. Their handicaps can be adjusted accordingly.

In a match that finishes early a new ratio will have to be drawn up. E.g team 2 wins 4 and 3. Player 1 has 30 points through 15. Player 2 has 35. This would be changed to 36 points for player 1 and 42 points for player 2.
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This is similar to the US system, every single round counts. However it is flawed, due to the allowance of gimmes etc

Key to dealing with these 'cheats' is to not play in these events that offer 'a pot of gold at the end'
 
MendieGK said:
This is similar to the US system, every single round counts. However it is flawed, due to the allowance of gimmes etc

Key to dealing with these 'cheats' is to not play in these events that offer 'a pot of gold at the end'
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Or, simply, vastly reduce the prizes on offer.
Competitive golfers will still want to play even if the prize is a free round..
Fact of life - the bigger the prize, the more cheats you get
 
Region3 said:
I don't see how that will help. Just a few more rounds not doing anything special.

What's needed is a way to ensure players do their best in the qualifiers they play in.

Impossible, unmanageable and unenforceable. Tilt, game over.

Sad really.
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Indont know what can be done

It's clear he and others are only interested in these events and manufacturing the HC to give them the best chance to win
 
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