Mark Crossfield - Is he all that?

[GB72]

I like the fact that there is someone who is actually reviewing clubs as that aspect seems to have disappeared from magazines (GM especiall). I know that there is no substitute for trying them yourselves but there are no comparative tests, no opinions just articles which only really express the virtues of a club. As GM state, they do not include bad gear in the magazine but that is no reason to ditch the comparison of good gear and also gives a tacit statement that if a new club is not in GM then it is not considered good gear.

There is a real gap in the market for someone who actually casts a critical eye over new golf equipment and Mark Crossfield is at least trying to fill that gap.

 

[Hacker Khan]

I like the fact that there is someone who is actually reviewing clubs as that aspect seems to have disappeared from magazines (GM especiall). I know that there is no substitute for trying them yourselves but there are no comparative tests, no opinions just articles which only really express the virtues of a club. As GM state, they do not include bad gear in the magazine but that is no reason to ditch the comparison of good gear and also gives a tacit statement that if a new club is not in GM then it is not considered good gear.

There is a real gap in the market for someone who actually casts a critical eye over new golf equipment and Mark Crossfield is at least trying to fill that gap.

Great post and totally agree.

 

[thecraw]

Consistency. Ah yes, doing something wrong is OK so long as you do it wrong the same way every time.

It is hilarious to read that people believe Crossfield is fighting a valiant battle attacking dodgy marketing.

Crossfield is practising dodgy marketing of one product - himself.

Wrong in your view doesn't mean its wrong. A world exists outside the copy and paste master.

 

[Ethan]

Wrong in your view doesn't mean its wrong. A world exists outside the copy and paste master.

Would you care to elaborate on your cryptic comment?

 

[CMAC]

I like what MC does, quick simple no nonsense reviews and swing advice, I'm a big fan of keeping it simple if possible. He's started golf course video reviews now as well (first was on a frosty course unfortunately) but great idea and I see GC's putting it on their website if favourable.

I've tweeted MC about the thread as hopefully he might post a comment or two in reply.

MC has now viewed the thread and posted a Tweet about it- the power of Twitter and the T'interweb:whoo:

 

[bladeplayer]

I've tweeted MC about the thread as hopefully he might post a comment or two in reply.

I like the fact that there is someone who is actually reviewing clubs as that aspect seems to have disappeared from magazines (GM especiall).
There is a real gap in the market for someone who actually casts a critical eye over new golf equipment and Mark Crossfield is at least trying to fill that gap.

He's not realy gona come on Greg , darths just messing

MC has now viewed the thread and posted a Tweet about it- the power of Twitter and the T'interweb:whoo:

OOOPS ha ha ... DOH .

Not on twitter Darth what did he say ?

 

[Fish]

Tweet from MC.

@GolfMonthly the forum is buzzing today I see http://forums.golf-monthly.co.uk/showthread.php?50246-Mark-Crossfield-Is-he-all-that …

 

[User20205]

I liked Mark when he custom fit me about 4 years ago, anything he does however has to be referenced by the fact he operates out of a Mizuno regional custom fitting centre.

He does have an agenda, flogging his app, nothing wrong with that in itself.

He is however a mine of information, I enjoy his comparison vids, and whilst wouldn't buy based solely on his recommendation, I would/do take his opinion on board.

He does seem do have a downer on TM post Rocketballs launch. He's in good company !!! Their marketing department has very little respect for the intelligence of their customer base

 

[Hacker Khan]

Tweet from MC.

@GolfMonthly the forum is buzzing today I see http://forums.golf-monthly.co.uk/showthread.php?50246-Mark-Crossfield-Is-he-all-that …

If you are reading this Mark, I think you are sweetly pretty, just what a real man should be. I mean, speaking as a Feminist myself I can safely say this; that Mark Crossfield is a wonderful man, and I want to protect him.

 

[AmandaJR]

Ooh the Timmy Mallett reference is gonna hurt!

 

[bladeplayer]

he operates out of a Mizuno regional custom fitting centre.

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Now im jelous & envious of him ha

 

[Chumpalot83]

Over the last week or so I have done nothing but watch Mark's videos and it's certainly given me something to think about when I'm out on the course or at the range. There's nobody else out there as far as I'm aware that offers as many free tips and reviews as he does. He can't be knocked for that.

For that Mark, I thank you Had you been a bit closer to where I live I would have certainly booked some lessons with you.

Keep up the good work

 

[Hacker Khan]

Mark Crossfields AskGolfGuru.com you tube channel 27,473 subscribers 14,054,324 video views
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I'd say he's doing something right in the digital age we are in. If I were any of the mags I'd look to do some kind of tie up with him as soon as possible, at the very least to increase their on line presence.

 

[NWJocko]

Consistency. Ah yes, doing something wrong is OK so long as you do it wrong the same way every time.

It is hilarious to read that people believe Crossfield is fighting a valiant battle attacking dodgy marketing.

Crossfield is practising dodgy marketing of one product - himself.

Are you referring to the instructional videos or reviews?

Never watched the instructional stuff but not sure how hitting some balls and giving an opinion can be "wrong"?

 

[chrisd]

Mark Crossfields AskGolfGuru.com you tube channel 27,473 subscribers 14,054,324 video views


I'd say he's doing something right in the digital age we are in. If I were any of the mags I'd look to do some kind of tie up with him as soon as possible, at the very least to increase their on line presence.

Not necessarily cos I reckon I make up 99% of those viewings!

I don't get it, he makes loads of top notch quality videos with his own views on clubs etc, various free hints tips and lessons. He never says that the views expressed are anything other than his own, everyone who watches a clip has a brain and can turn the clip off if they dont like him and still he has detractors ! I have rarely met a golf pro who isn't good at promoting himself !

I wouldn't buy a club or anything just because Mark says its good but I would certainly check out his review before hand.

 

[Ethan]

Are you referring to the instructional videos or reviews?

Never watched the instructional stuff but not sure how hitting some balls and giving an opinion can be "wrong"?

"doing something wrong is OK so long as you do it wrong the same way every time."

This was a reference to the point made by one of his followers that he does things with consistency. My point which seems to have evaded most people, is that consistency is only a good thing if you perform the correct experiment/test in the first place. In technical language consistency is better called repeatability, but this is no good if the validity, i.e the meaningfulness of the test is lacking or unproven. In this case, he claimed to be hitting the shots with the same swing (how do we know that - the fact they produce the same swing speed is not enough) and he did so with crappy range balls on a freezing night. The results of that test are so flawed as to be utterly worthless.

And I say that as someone who has been a Mizuno fan longer than Crossfield, not a TM fan at all, and has no notion of ever playing the Rocketballz irons. But a flawed experiment is a flawed experiment.

Crossfield is also a Mizuno fitter, and lo and behold he is subtly plugging the Mizzy, yet according to many here HE is the objective non-biased one!

This concludes my participation in this thread!

 

[Hacker Khan]

"doing something wrong is OK so long as you do it wrong the same way every time."

But a flawed experiment is a flawed experiment.

I am beginning to bore myself now, but I will go on. How are you supposed to conduct a proper test between golf clubs then? Have any of the mags ever done it properly? What do you want to see happening for the test/experiment to be a valid comparison of golf clubs?

 

[Tommo21]

Not necessarily cos I reckon I make up 99% of those viewings!

I don't get it, he makes loads of top notch quality videos with his own views on clubs etc, various free hints tips and lessons. He never says that the views expressed are anything other than his own, everyone who watches a clip has a brain and can turn the clip off if they dont like him and still he has detractors ! I have rarely met a golf pro who isn't good at promoting himself !

I wouldn't buy a club or anything just because Mark says its good but I would certainly check out his review before hand.

And the above forum frolickers is about right.

 

[chrisd]

"doing something wrong is OK so long as you do it wrong the same way every time."

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I don't recall any video that claims to be a scientific test, true that some are with the use of Trackman but we see the balls, the conditions, the swing and, for me I'm happy to listen to what he says despite the variables. I don't see any difference with his views and those of my club pro or low handicap mates and I have compared clubs that I might buy with the same lack of science.

The day that I see one of his videos where he claims a test to be "scientific" then I will accept your point Ethan

 

[MetalMickie]

I am beginning to bore myself now, but I will go on. How are you supposed to conduct a proper test between golf clubs then? Have any of the mags ever done it properly? What do you want to see happening for the test/experiment to be a valid comparison of golf clubs?

Surely the answer is to conduct the comparison yourself. At least you will then know if the execution of the shots was similar in each case.

You will also know whether the clubs (and specs) being tested are suited to you.

I have nothing against Mark Crossfield but I fail to see what benefit there is to me, a happy hacker, from results achieved by a pro'; be he a teaching or tour pro'.

Any man involved in the sale or promotion of one brand or another is likely to find it impossible to remain objective.

Personally I find his reviews a little like the analysts on Match of the Day i.e. they state the bleeding obvious!!