Man Utd

[HomerJSimpson]

Not sure it is that simple.

What if you can't afford a seaon ticket, or to travel to the away games, are you less of a fan than a rich bloke eating prawn sandwiches in a box every game?

Got to agree here. Most big clubs have waiting lists for season tickets and are usually sold out for PL games. You'll get a ticket to watch the reserves in either the Carling or FA cup but is that fair return.

Unless you are a member (and usually a season ticket holder) its even harder to get an way ticket unless you blag your way in as a home fan. I have no problem with fans not being able to go to games, but do have aproblem with glory hunter fans that suddenly come onboard when their club is winning stuff. I've been a Fulham fan for years and been all over the country with them through the bad (and even badder) times. We get one great run in Europe and suddenly everyone was there in the halcyon days of Mullery, Marsh and Best. We'd have needed Wembley to fit them all in if they really were there.

 

[viscount17]

A fan sits at home, a supporter supports there team vocally at games. It really is that simple.

don't go off on one, but you really need to re-read your earlier post. first you say it's supporters that follow the team around then you call yourself a 'fan', which you describe as armchair warriors.

(I'm in a tetchy mood - the weather is absolutely glorious here and I'm stuck in the office!)

 

[Robobum]

Like most headline makers in Football, there is more to this that we are unlikely to discover.

Fergie was really rattled in the press conference last night when the hacks refused to let up with the Rooney questions.

IF he does go, there are only 2 options......Chelsea or abroad. From his reaction during the World Cup (and returning to Goodison etc), he clearly finds it difficult to take the fans abuse so that has to rule out Man City regardless of £300K a week.

 

[BrianDamage]

This media reaction is becoming pretty tiresome.

I love Holloway but his brown nosing yesterday was quite sickening. His logic was also completely flawed. Comparing it to buying a house. Rooney is not a slave who is owned by Man Utd. They paid Everton compensation in order to break the contract with them. Rooney then signs a contract with Utd and once that is up it is perfectly reasonable for him to do as he chooses. He's hasn't even run it right down. He told them he wouldn't be signing a new one when he had two years left on it. How is that, in any way unreasonable?

Do you think the media will make such a song and dance about it if Fabregas decides to leave Arsenal? Will they ****!

Oh and wasn't it lovely to see the fans reaction last night at Rooney's house with their banner 'Join City and Die'..

 

[USER1999]

Under the Webster ruling, a player in the final year of his contract can buy himself out of it. As a result, giving two years notice of leaving, which in effect is one year, is not enough. United would have got a much greater transfer fee in July than they will in January, as the player only has to complete the season and he can leave for £5m. His transfer (if it happens) in January would be around £20m tops, but would have been nearer £50m if accomplished in July. This is not going to make him popular with the fans or club.

A two year contract is nearer to a 0 year contract, as the club has to sell straight away to achieve any return on the player.

There has been an unwritten agreement between the G20 clubs that they will not poach other clubs players on a Webster, as they don't want to open Pandora's box. Obviously City aren't in the G20, and also a player of Rooneys quality has never been available. Time to test the water.

Wenger has said that he thinks within ten years players will be on a one year rolling contract, and that forward planning will be impossible. He's obviously not a fan of the Webster ruling.

 

[BrianDamage]

Well if 2 years isn't enough time then United should have sat down with him before that.

It's down to the club to get him to renew it earlier not Rooney.

 

[USER1999]

He has just signed a new 5 year contract with United.

 

[Aztecs27]

So, United basically caved to his demands and tantrums, making themselves look like jobsworths! Stupid idiots.

They should have just let him go and not made themselves look like fools.

"No player is bigger than the club"

Yea right.

 

[USER1999]

I work with a united fan, and he is happy as larry that his 'hero' has re-signed.

I hope the fans at the next home game take a different view to the money grubbing ***. He'll be kissing the badge next, saying what a great club it is.

 

[viscount17]

never mind, his agent is happy

 

[SS2]

The sordid affair is of zero importance to me. I like watching football, any team will do that plays good football, and the newspaper-filling crap that goes on off the pitch is about as relevant to me as something utterly devoid of relevance in every way.

 

[Golfmmad]

To be honest I never thought Rooney would leave anyway - and that's not talking after the event.

Listening to Fergies press conference the other day - the 5 key words were, "The door is always open". And then Rooneys statement yesterday when he said how he holds Fergie in high esteem and that he's a brilliant and inspirational Manager. They're not words of two people who have had massive arguements - as has been reported. Yes, Rooney said a few things he probably now regrets, just heat of the moment stuff I'd say.

I don't think the money was Rooneys motive, maybe his Agents thoughts. Rooney was more interested in Man U not buying good enough World Class players. I think he has every right to question the Manager, the owners about who they will be bringing in to strengthen the squad.

Was it a clever ploy between Fergie and Rooney to make the Glazers stump up the money for new players? Probably pie in the sky, but it might just make 'em sit up and do something.

It's also been reported today that Rooney bottled it at the last minute - but I don't believe that's the case at all!

Anyway, I'm glad he's staying and I'll quote the old cliche - form is temporary, class is permanent!

Golfmmad.

 

[CrapHacker]

To be honest I never thought Rooney would leave anyway - and that's not talking after the event.

Oh yes it is.



I think it's a good move for Rooney - he gets his meagre £180K a week, or whatever.

It's a good move for Fergie - he's proved he can hold on to his star player.

It's a good move for Utd - with him they've still got a good chance of challenging for the major silverwear.

It's not a bad move for me either - it slows down City's progress, and if it means Utd will be hemorrhaging cash every week, then the collapse, when it eventually comes, will be even more spectacular.

 

[Marko77]

Was it a clever ploy between Fergie and Rooney to make the Glazers stump up the money for new players? Probably pie in the sky, but it might just make 'em sit up and do something.

Was thinking similar.

Also heard (can't mind where) that Fergie may have persuaded Rooney to sign the 5yr deal to ensure Man U can still command a decent fee for him should he go within the next couple of years?