Man in uniform moved from hospital

[Deleted member 15344]

I fully appreciate why it was done, and that it was very much done in good faith. However, isn't this along similar lines following the beach massacre in Tunis, i.e. if "we don't go the terrorists have won." We're now giving ground in our own country. Why not just put a couple of the hospital security guards in there? Any sign of trouble kick the idiots out and let them get their treatment elsewhere.

In the U.S. their service men are lauded and applauded, but in this country we don't want them in uniform in case they upset someone - its rollox! The lunatics are taking over the farm and we're happy to let them.

This countries mentality towards the military is a world away from the US military

All through my career I was unable to wear the uniform in public - even when driving my car - because of the troubles in N Ireland. We were hidden away from the public and still now people shy away from the military

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I fully appreciate why it was done, and that it was very much done in good faith. However, isn't this along similar lines following the beach massacre in Tunis, i.e. if "we don't go the terrorists have won." We're now giving ground in our own country. Why not just put a couple of the hospital security guards in there? Any sign of trouble kick the idiots out and let them get their treatment elsewhere.

In the U.S. their service men are lauded and applauded, but in this country we don't want them in uniform in case they upset someone - its rollox! The lunatics are taking over the farm and we're happy to let them.

Well said sir

 

[Hobbit]

So we leave an injured serviceman out the front, possibly unable to defend himself against these cretins, so that we can say they haven't won? Sorry, that's barmy. I don't disagree that it shouldn't happen but I feel we need to be pragmatic here.

The hospital security guards are little or no use against the sort of cretin who would have a go at a serviceman; you would need police officers to arrest them and a magistrate with suitable "testicular fortitude" to sentence them in such a manner as to send a message out that it will not be tolerated, but it will take a few of these cases to get through to the hard of thinking.

I agree that we have to be pragmatic, and as things stand at present we have little choice but to accept the way things are but isn't it time we started pushing back? Is it time mechanisms were put in place to counter the behaviour we now so obviously know can happen? Or does the authorities remain derelect in protecting those that protect us?

Whether we talk about no go areas, and "rewarding bad behaviour" by allowing it to happen just how far do we have to bend just to keep the peace?

 

[Blue in Munich]

I agree that we have to be pragmatic, and as things stand at present we have little choice but to accept the way things are but isn't it time we started pushing back? Is it time mechanisms were put in place to counter the behaviour we now so obviously know can happen? Or does the authorities remain derelect in protecting those that protect us?

Whether we talk about no go areas, and "rewarding bad behaviour" by allowing it to happen just how far do we have to bend just to keep the peace?

Fully agree that something should be done about it mate, the trouble is that the authorities would appear to be more concerned about the rights of those cretins who dole out the abuse than the rights of those who stand up for us.

I was always taught that with rights come responsibilities, seems the modern "parents" that I came across were very hot on their rights but wouldn't recognise their responsibilities if they slapped them round the chops. The ambulance chasing lawyers don't help either.