Jeremy Corbyn

[MegaSteve]

Where did I say that?

Or or are you saying you’d rather have an anti-Semitic terror loving Labour Party.

We can both twist what each other says.

I am fully aware of the failings within my own political party...

Whereas, I feel, many of the blue rosette wearers just simply ignore the failings within their party or worse still pretend they don't exist...

 

[MegaSteve]

Is it me or does Corbyn get less stick on here for his actions than Boris?

I'd say it was you...
From where I am sitting more folk are queuing up to kick Jezza…

Most of the anti BoJo is same source...

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Is it me or does Corbyn get less stick on here for his actions than Boris?

That is a ..what would you rather have a needle through your eye or a red hot poker up your bum question.:lol:

 

[Hobbit]

I am fully aware of the failings within my own political party...

Whereas, I feel, many of the blue rosette wearers just simply ignore the failings within their party or worse still pretend they don't exist...

There's some great people in both parties. Yvette Cooper is excellent, and Diane Abbott, for all her failings as Shadow Home Sec, has done some fabulous stuff campaigning for mental health awareness - she's just been promoted above her level of competency. I find it a little harder to identify stars amongst the Tories, maybe because they aren't quite cavalier and follow the party line better. Although I though David Davis spoke very well as Brexit Sec, and Chris Grayling speaks very well, especially outside of his brief. Hunt, I'm unsure of. Health is an emotive subject, more so with the lack of money and its too early to say how he'll pan out as Foreign Sec.

I've voted for all 3 of the Westminster parties in the last 40+ years, probably nip and tuck between Labour and the LibDems for the most votes. I wouldn't touch the current Labour Party with a barge pole, even if it meant getting the Tories out. I fear they'd do far more damage than we've seen in the last 8 years.

 

[chrisd]

That is a ..what would you rather have a needle through your eye or a red hot poker up your bum question.:lol:

I've had a needle in my eye 🤔

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Is it me or does Corbyn get less stick on here for his actions than Boris?

I don't think so.

 

[MegaSteve]

I've voted for all 3 of the Westminster parties in the last 40+ years, probably nip and tuck between Labour and the LibDems for the most votes. I wouldn't touch the current Labour Party with a barge pole, even if it meant getting the Tories out. I fear they'd do far more damage than we've seen in the last 8 years.

I live in a tory stranglehold so I always feel my vote [if it was Labour] as being irrelevant... So tend to vote for the best pick of the independents... First time [I think] I've admitted this in public... I voted for Boris, for Mayor, as Ken simply had to go... And, if the tories hadn't played it so dirty against Sadiq my vote could well have gone to Zac as he was the better candidate aside from allowing tory HQ to run his campaign...


Currently I am out of my party... It needs to get its 'top able' sorted... Somewhere between the Blairites and the Corbynistas and I'd be interested in re-joining... Been a union man all my working life but right now they [McCluskey] need to butt out...

 

[MegaSteve]

I've had a needle in my eye 🤔

Me too and it b****y hurts...
To say the least..

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I am fully aware of the failings within my own political party...

Whereas, I feel, many of the blue rosette wearers just simply ignore the failings within their party or worse still pretend they don't exist...

I think that there is a great deal of denial in 'right thinking' supporters of the Conservative Party over the direction that party is travelling at the moment and the sort of 'obnoxious right' that will attach itself to, and follow, the 'right leader' of that party. Farage is rumbling on about getting back into party politics if Brexit does not fit what he defines as 'what the people voted for' - with IMO that all being linked into the desire for control over immigration - maybe for some wrapped up in different flavours of sweetie paper - but immigration control still being the main sweetie in town - and the Tory Party cannot again play the EU referendum card to nullify that threat.

Unfortunately Corbyn just does not do it for me. I find his 'passion' pretty inauthentic and forced at times, and his avoidance of difficult matters worrying.

 

[Hobbit]

Corbyn has admitted he was in the party that laid the wreath to the two PLO planners behind the Munich Olympic massacre. But he didn't actually hold the wreath - splitting hairs or what!! And that's after previously saying he was in the party that laid a wreath at a different monument. So he lied previously, just as he did when he said he'd never met any IRA members at Westminster, only to be corrected by Diane Abbott.

The man is despicable and huge stain on the Labour Party. But at the end of the day, the party Leader is chosen by the members. Maybe that says a lot about just who and what the Labour Party is today.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

There's some great people in both parties. Yvette Cooper is excellent, and Diane Abbott, for all her failings as Shadow Home Sec, has done some fabulous stuff campaigning for mental health awareness - she's just been promoted above her level of competency. I find it a little harder to identify stars amongst the Tories, maybe because they aren't quite cavalier and follow the party line better. Although I though David Davis spoke very well as Brexit Sec, and Chris Grayling speaks very well, especially outside of his brief. Hunt, I'm unsure of. Health is an emotive subject, more so with the lack of money and its too early to say how he'll pan out as Foreign Sec.

I've voted for all 3 of the Westminster parties in the last 40+ years, probably nip and tuck between Labour and the LibDems for the most votes. I wouldn't touch the current Labour Party with a barge pole, even if it meant getting the Tories out. I fear they'd do far more damage than we've seen in the last 8 years.

And all that you hear from many are Abbott being made fun of and mocked. Because it is easy and lazy.

 

[Hobbit]

And all that you hear from many are Abbott being made fun of and mocked. Because it is easy and lazy.

I'll hold my hands up Hugh. I was one of those that mocked her for her performances as Shadow Home Sec. Like I said, she's been promoted to her level of incompetency. But her record in a number of areas is excellent.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I'll hold my hands up Hugh. I was one of those that mocked her for her performances as Shadow Home Sec. Like I said, she's been promoted to her level of incompetency. But her record in a number of areas is excellent.

She has made blunders; sometimes 'misspeaks', and has sometimes come across poorly - but I find her a lot more authentic than Corbyn.

 

[Foxholer]

Corbyn...
The man is despicable and huge stain on the Labour Party. But at the end of the day, the party Leader is chosen by the members. Maybe that says a lot about just who and what the Labour Party is today.

Totally agree with your view of Corbyn!

Unfortunately, the Labour Party is the most 'democratic' of all the parties and the Leader is (eventualy) chosen by grass-root members of the Party! With him as Leader, it will never become Government - at least I hope! It might take 2 failed elections before the Parliamentary wing realises this and does something about it - which it actually can!

Btw. I actually agree with his statement to BBC that '...the only way to peace is by a cycle of dialogue'!

 

[User62651]

Corbyns bubble of summer 2017 seems long gone to me. They dont even have a lead in the polls which given Tory performance of late is seriously bad news for Labour, dont think the Tories can get any lower. I dont mind Corby personally but I can see he's unsuitable for party leader. Labour need a leadership bid, someone more moderate like Thornberry or Starmer or Cooper have to step up soon.

 

[MegaSteve]

Many of the voting membership are poo scared, of the consequences, of the Blairites taking back control...

 

[Tashyboy]

And all that you hear from many are Abbott being made fun of and mocked. Because it is easy and lazy.

No it's because she is thick. End of story. There is no doubt that there are certain races of our multicultural society that have had a bum deal and are downtrodden . If she is the best person to fight there cause then God help them. She may well be authentic and what you see is what you get as against the false " Jezza" but she is one of the reasons why Labour will never get to govern. She may well be a nice person and I have no reasons to doubt that. But she has been put into a position where she is massively punching above her weight, and Joe public sees that.

 

[shortgame]

She has made blunders; sometimes 'misspeaks', and has sometimes come across poorly - but I find her a lot more authentic than Corbyn.

An authentic idiot rather than an inauthentic idiot

 

[Doon frae Troon]

This government is utterly clueless and Labour cannot provide a credible opposition.

Time for serious change and both of them to be binned.
Worked out quite well for France.

 

[HughJars]

So as a neutral I have a choice between Jezza and Diane or Theresa and Boris.

Thank God ave for golf to keep me sane, oh hang on.

Times like this you wish you were Scotish and had proper alternatives. Oh hang on.

how do I get outta this hole.

Hang on what? Your point was correct, the SNP & Scottish Greens are nothing like the Tories/Labour/Libs.