Jeremy Corbyn

[Hobbit]

If he wants to win back some brownie points he needs to address the anti-semitism row that just doesn't seem to want to go away. I've read some good stuff in recent days about Labours problems on this issue, one of which names a number of MP's and activists that have said things they probably shouldn't have said. Some have been suspended then reinstated, even though there's no hiding from what they've actually said. Others have supported some of these people in their fight against suspension, and some have supported comments made only to now want to distance themselves from those comments or support given.

Does Corbyn have antisemitic tendencies? I genuinely don't know, although some of the things he's said and done are at best questionable. I'm tempted to follow the line of one of the Labour supporting media outlets; Corbyn is clumsy and, probably, shouldn't be Labour leader. And the next paragraph in the article said both the Labour centre right and the Tories will continue to have field day until he either gets very tough on antisemitism or is replaced.

And still it won't go away.

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What concerns me more than Corbyn's bumbling ineffectual deflections is the 'stormtroopers' in the background viciously attacking anyone that dare criticise him. When you look at Momentum's actions in so many constituencies, forcing deselections of moderate MP's. The attacks on Hodge, Austin and Watson, including how quickly the first two were formally charged with misbehaviour unlike those obviously guilty of anti-semitism you've really got to ask the question, "just how unsavoury is the Labour Party behind the lovely cuddly caring image they try to portray."

We need a strong, fair opposition. We've got the beginnings of a Night of the Long knives instead.

 

[IanM]

Tendancies? I guess the record of who you praise, places., events you go to and who you associate with tend to speak very loudly in such things.

 

[Hobbit]

Tendancies? I guess the record of who you praise, places., events you go to and who you associate with tend to speak very loudly in such things.

If Corbyn had met both sides of the conflicts with equal energy I'd be inclined to think he was genuinely interested in finding fair solutions for all parties. You've only got to look at Corbyn's appearances on Iranian TV, and the blatant lies he told Andrew Marr in January this year about them to realise he is an out and out liar and a very dangerous man.

 

[MegaSteve]

Just when the blue team is in total dis-array instead of taking the fullest advantage...
They have a total meltdown of their own...
Unbelievable...

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I have zero time for Jeremy Corbyn. His every 'sincere' utterance seems insincere, inauthentic and forced. Do I trust him? No.

 

[Tashyboy]

Just when the blue team is in total dis-array instead of taking the fullest advantage...
They have a total meltdown of their own...
Unbelievable...

This is about it in a nutshell. Can remember somone once saying a strong opposition creates a strong government. We have an opposition that quite frankly is embarrassing. Only matched by an equally embarrassing government.

 

[SocketRocket]

Corbyn has spent his Political career sharing a bed with extremist groups. How on earth could he be a suitable candidate to be leader of the Labour Party. The mainstream needs to wake up and throw out this nasty group that has infiltrated the party and turned its leadership into a nasty, dangerous influence.

 

[drdel]

Corbyn has spent his Political career sharing a bed with extremist groups. How on earth could he be a suitable candidate to be leader of the Labour Party. The mainstream needs to wake up and throw out this nasty group that has infiltrated the party and turned its leadership into a nasty, dangerous influence.

Yup and I'm afraid it seems he still has the same bedfellows. The 'bubble' around the central group of the Labour Party is a danger to the UK's democracy.

 

[Foxholer]

...Corbyn is clumsy and, probably, shouldn't be Labour leader. And the next paragraph in the article said both the Labour centre right and the Tories will continue to have field day until he either gets very tough on antisemitism or is replaced.

Couldn't agree more with the bold bit!

I don't believe he'll ever escape the whiff/accusation of anti-semitism - even if he isn't anti-semetic!

 

[IanM]

just as well he is then....

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

just as well he is then....

your have actual proof of that?

 

[Hobbit]

Is Corbyn anti-semitic? On the face of it, probably not. He says some good things about rooting out anti-semitism, and Labour are too slow in dealing with it.

However, I'd prefer to look at it from several angles.

1) He's intelligent, very intelligent, and should know without a shadow of a doubt what the difference is between racism and ant-semitism. And he appears to fail miserably.

2) He's never sought to put the same energy into working with both sides. If he'd put in as much energy as he had with Hamas and Hezbollah, who knows what he could have achieved.

£) He's moved with undue haste when chasing Hodge and Austin, yet when you look at the list of 'offenders' in the Labour Party, and there's plenty of them(the list is embarrassingly long) he's done next to nowt. Far from it! On the day Ken Livingstone resigned from the Labour Party Corbyn paid tribute to him.

4) He's happy to redefine the world's list of definitions of ant-semitism, leaving out four, one of which you could pin to his chest quite easily.

5) Last week saw Corbyn's office ask if it was okay to publish an article on Friday evening, just before the Jewish Sabbath. When advised that it would be insensitive, it still went ahead and published it.

I used to think he was the patsy for a more sinister, Marxist left wing - have a read of McDonnell's history. Corbyn, and McDonnell are frighteningly dangerous across such a wide spectrum of areas in running the UK. The wistful promises that buy votes worry me. He, and his cohorts, will sleep walk the UK into a society akin to a banana republic.

 

[Tashyboy]

So it seems our Jezza in 2014 took a little visit to the graves of the terrorists who killed israeli athletes at the munich olympics in 1972. Think tomorrow will be a busy day for him.

 

[drdel]

So it seems our Jezza in 2014 took a little visit to the graves of the terrorists who killed israeli athletes at the munich olympics in 1972. Think tomorrow will be a busy day for him.

If there is any natural justice I hope you're right. I amazed his past has been smoothed over.

 

[IanM]

He claims "Black Setpember" was a heavy metal band, so he'd thought he was goign to a concert!

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Funny how the right wing press are managing to 'discover' and publish anti-Corbyn articles on a very regular basis these days. You might almost think they had stored them all up for a 'rainy day' when it became necessary for their ends to try and completely undermine Corbyn, portray him in the worst possible light, and distract from the mess that is the government and Brexit.

You might think that, but I can't possibly imagine that our press would be so scheming - or maybe they just might.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I just wish the two good halves of the Labour and Tory party's would unite into a new 'we are not idiots' party and leave the extremists of the two sides totally isolated in their own wee worlds.


The Sensible [we are not idiots] Party...….has a good ring to it.

 

[Hobbit]

Funny how the right wing press are managing to 'discover' and publish anti-Corbyn articles on a very regular basis these days. You might almost think they had stored them all up for a 'rainy day' when it became necessary for their ends to try and completely undermine Corbyn, portray him in the worst possible light, and distract from the mess that is the government and Brexit.

You might think that, but I can't possibly imagine that our press would be so scheming - or maybe they just might.

Whether they are scheming or not they are reporting facts. Or would you prefer to sleepwalk into a Corbyn led Labour Govt? Would you like someone who has, consistently, met various terror organisations become PM? The press would be remiss in their duty if they didn't report the stories, and the electorate wouldn't know that Corbyn's bed fellows are terror groups.

The current article clearly quotes the wife of one of the Israeli athletes, why hasn't Corbyn spoken to them too? Purely by coincidence I asked the same question 5 days ago in post #2052. When has he ever put energy into meeting BOTH sides of a conflict? He sees every govt in just about every country in the world as an oppressor of the people.

 

[2blue]

Funny how the right wing press are managing to 'discover' and publish anti-Corbyn articles on a very regular basis these days. You might almost think they had stored them all up for a 'rainy day' when it became necessary for their ends to try and completely undermine Corbyn, portray him in the worst possible light, and distract from the mess that is the government and Brexit.

You might think that, but I can't possibly imagine that our press would be so scheming - or maybe they just might.

AND...… it's hard to believe that so many people would be so naïve to fall for it all, hook line & sinker!!

 

[MegaSteve]

The chances of a Jezza led government are less than zip...
Our right leaning media will ABSOLUTELY ensure that...