Jeremy Corbyn

[SocketRocket]

Try and listen to https://www.joe.co.uk/unfiltered/unfiltered-with-james-obrien-episode-17-sir-nick-clegg-161257 I found it a really interesting listen. And at least to me Fox is pretty consistent with his views, no matter how unpalatable I find them.

Fox is what you see on the tin and straight about it. Corbyn/McDonnell are different, they are Communists dressed up in labour clothes because it is the only way they can promote their real beliefs. Their front bench is pathetic and very poor quality due to their half tidy MPs wanting to ditch them.

 

[Hacker Khan]

Fox is what you see on the tin and straight about it. Corbyn/McDonnell are different, they are Communists dressed up in labour clothes because it is the only way they can promote their real beliefs. Their front bench is pathetic and very poor quality due to their half tidy MPs wanting to ditch them.

But they are not though are they. They have, relative to the centralist views of recent Labour administrations, relatively socialist views on many issues, but that does not make them communists. And as I said in a previous post, if all the tories are going to do is call them communists then that will not win over any labour voters, or people who, given the choice between the current governments approach and a bit of socialism, might actually like a bit of socialism when it comes to the NHS and public services.

 

[Old Skier]

Not communists but they are committed Marxist and have admitted it on several occasions publicly . There have been previous links to them on other threads.

 

[Hobbit]

But they are not though are they. They have, relative to the centralist views of recent Labour administrations, relatively socialist views on many issues, but that does not make them communists. And as I said in a previous post, if all the tories are going to do is call them communists then that will not win over any labour voters, or people who, given the choice between the current governments approach and a bit of socialism, might actually like a bit of socialism when it comes to the NHS and public services.

Marxism, which McDonnell has admitted to, = the political and economic theories of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, later developed by their followers to form the basis of communism.

The City of London is a bigger earner of tax revenue than North Sea oil, currently. Their brand of re-nationalisation of major industries will be felt by the City, which will affect pensions. Confidence in the UK will drop, along with investment.

I like a lot of Corbyn's socialist policies but I feel he is promising the earth but will destroy the economy trying to deliver it.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Replace the word Corbyn with Boris Johnson and that sentence would be just as correct. Which kind of sums up where we are with current politics. To be honest I don't respect either of them for their stance on this mater.

Snap!

 

[IanM]

How many Terrorist Rallies/Funerals has Boris been to?

 

[Hacker Khan]

How many Terrorist Rallies/Funerals has Boris been to?

I'm guessing if your living standards are crumbling, the public services you are relying on are decreasing and the length of time you are waiting to get seen to on the NHS is increasing you probably do not give a *^*&^

 

[Hacker Khan]

Marxism, which McDonnell has admitted to, = the political and economic theories of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, later developed by their followers to form the basis of communism.

The City of London is a bigger earner of tax revenue than North Sea oil, currently. Their brand of re-nationalisation of major industries will be felt by the City, which will affect pensions. Confidence in the UK will drop, along with investment.

I like a lot of Corbyn's socialist policies but I feel he is promising the earth but will destroy the economy trying to deliver it.

Replace the words I've highlighted with the word 'Brexit' and we'll have much the same result. IMHO. Devil and the deep blue sea.....

 

[IanM]

Replace the words I've highlighted with the word 'Brexit' and we'll have much the same result. IMHO. Devil and the deep blue sea.....

...as evidenced by all the banks who have left the City in the last two years, the stock market crash and the huge rise in unemployment, you mean?

 

[IanM]

I'm guessing if your living standards are crumbling, the public services you are relying on are decreasing and the length of time you are waiting to get seen to on the NHS is increasing you probably do not give a *^*&^

Not sure what that has to do with the question about Corbyn's propensity to align himself with enemies of the State. But if you want to talk Marxist Economics, I am happy to do that too!

...and as you say, you are guessing about my situation.

Corbyn has been caught out badly in terms of his Financial Claims.... but maybe he can deliver on the Unicorns he promised!

 

[MegaSteve]

but maybe he can deliver on the Unicorns he promised!

Probably more likely than the jam tomorrow promises of the tory boys 'n girls...

 

[Hacker Khan]

...as evidenced by all the banks who have left the City in the last two years, the stock market crash and the huge rise in unemployment, you mean?

Hate to break it to you but we have not had Brexit yet. I'd hope the success or not of this is judged a bit more than a few months since we voted to leave, although we have not actually left yet and won't for another year.

 

[Hacker Khan]

Not sure what that has to do with the question about Corbyn's propensity to align himself with enemies of the State. But if you want to talk Marxist Economics, I am happy to do that too!

...and as you say, you are guessing about my situation.

Corbyn has been caught out badly in terms of his Financial Claims.... but maybe he can deliver on the Unicorns he promised!

No he hasn't as he has not had the opportunity to enact them.

 

[IanM]

So, comparing actual cost with claimed cost and stated offering doesn't count then?

My apologies.

 

[Hobbit]

Replace the words I've highlighted with the word 'Brexit' and we'll have much the same result. IMHO. Devil and the deep blue sea.....

Will we have much the same result? The fallout from Brexit, e.g. the sudden recession that didn't happen and mass unemployment that didn't happen + what MIGHT happen in 2 years time is at best an educated guess, whereas what Corbyn has said about re-nationalisation is a manifesto pledge.

We don't know what the negotiated deal will be yet some people are already writing it off as a disaster. And this is what really pee's me off, the doom mongers who actually don't know what will happen. Yes, by all means its a no from a political/lifestyle choice but to say it will be a disaster when there is no concrete evidence of that...

 

[Hacker Khan]

Will we have much the same result? The fallout from Brexit, e.g. the sudden recession that didn't happen and mass unemployment that didn't happen + what MIGHT happen in 2 years time is at best an educated guess, whereas what Corbyn has said about re-nationalisation is a manifesto pledge.

We don't know what the negotiated deal will be yet some people are already writing it off as a disaster. And this is what really pee's me off, the doom mongers who actually don't know what will happen. Yes, by all means its a no from a political/lifestyle choice but to say it will be a disaster when there is no concrete evidence of that...

I personally ain't got an effing clue, I was just going on the advice of the vast majority of economic projections that said it it would not be good. Much as no one has a clue on the impact of nationalising a few industries like rail where the private sector is at best, not providing the best service to the customers.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

As Corbyn addresses the half filled SLab Conference hall......his supporters burst into new chant of...... 'och Jeremy Corbyn'.

They didn't really

 

[spongebob59]

https://twitter.com/haveigotnews/status/974287307049259009

 

[Old Skier]

https://twitter.com/haveigotnews/status/974287307049259009

Stop it, he's in enough trouble with his MPs, again.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Stop it, he's in enough trouble with his MPs, again.

Just about everything (but not everything) the Labour Party are talking about I can agree with - and then up pops Foreign Policy and I look at Corbyn and I turn away from Labour