Jeremy Corbyn

[Doon frae Troon]

Hope the link works.
This is a crowdfunder for the Labour members who have been denied a vote by the Labour NEC on voting for a Labour leader.
Deserves some support IMO


https://www.crowdjustice.co.uk/case/labour-party-membership/

 

[BesCumber]

Hope the link works.
This is a crowdfunder for the Labour members who have been denied a vote by the Labour NEC on voting for a Labour leader.
Deserves some support IMO


https://www.crowdjustice.co.uk/case/labour-party-membership/

I'll donate if you do..

I had you down as one of them SNPers'.
A Corbynista eh ? Well i never.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I'll donate if you do..

I had you down as one of them SNPers'.
A Corbynista eh ? Well i never.

I have just got a bit of sympathy for the future of England and Wales to be honest.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

I have just got a bit of sympathy for the future of England and Wales to be honest.

That's very kind of you but the vast majority do not seem to think that Mr Corbyn will be to the benefit of that future.

 

[IanM]

One day, one of these idiots will actually find the Money Tree, then that'll show you,

 

[BesCumber]

I have just got a bit of sympathy for the future of England and Wales to be honest.

Really?
All strong democracies need an effective opposition. An opposition lead by JC is a tory wet dream.Effectively condemning the UK to a one party dictatorship. I fail to see how any true democrat could desire this. Oh well.
Of course it also guarantees a SNP majority in Holyrood. I suspect a motive..

 

[Doon frae Troon]

The man who could be Scotland's last ever Labour MP tells Corbyn where he is going wrong:lol:
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...litical_dynamic_in_Scotland__says_Ian_Murray/

 

[Hobbit]

I have just got a bit of sympathy for the future of England and Wales to be honest.

Surely the electorate decides who governs them. If whatever country's electorate decides on a particular political path they are actually getting what they want.

You could, perhaps, extend that sympathy to Scotland. Now there's another one party country if ever there was one. No viable opposition to curb the excesses of a spendthrift government.

 

[BesCumber]

The man who could be Scotland's last ever Labour MP tells Corbyn where he is going wrong:lol:
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...litical_dynamic_in_Scotland__says_Ian_Murray/

I agree with him DFT.
For a political party with less than 1.5 million votes (4.7%) to effectively control the balance of power in the Uk would be completely unacceptable to the vast majority of the electorate.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I agree with him DFT.
For a political party with less than 1.5 million votes (4.7%) to effectively control the balance of power in the Uk would be completely unacceptable to the vast majority of the electorate.

Good tag line for an independent Scotland that.
Now if only you could persuade Owen Smith to use it.

 

[BesCumber]

Good tag line for an independent Scotland that.
Now if only you could persuade Owen Smith to use it.

I thought that after i posted it.
The fact remains though Doon that you're not independent, so my point stands. The SNP will never hold the balance of power in the UK.
In my opinion of course. :thup:

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Beginning to think that JC may well have more to offer than OS

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Owen Smith wants to begin talks with ISIS and everyone shrugs their shoulders.

Now if Jeremy had said that I wonder what the reaction would have been ?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Owen Smith wants to begin talks with ISIS and everyone shrugs their shoulders.

Now if Jeremy had said that I wonder what the reaction would have been ?

I heard quite a fuss being made by some over what OS said about negotiating with ISIS. But those folks critisising him seemingly ignoring the fact that were the west ever to be sitting down to negotiate with ISIS, that would only be because the west had ISIS on the ropes. As you can destroy people but you can't destroy an idea then at that point I can see the logic of sitting down with ISIS to see what could be agreed in accommodating ISIS to minimise the risk of future atrocities. That said - if the 'idea' behind ISIS is destruction of the west, then those talks would very most likely be fruitless - but they would surely be worth a go.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Owen Smith at the Glasgow hustings for the Labour Party leadership says, 'I think Keiza Dugdale [SLab leader] is doing a great job'
The audience of Labour Party members burst out laughing.

Totally out of touch with Scotland. [all three of them!]

 

[Hacker Khan]

Owen Smith wants to begin talks with ISIS and everyone shrugs their shoulders.

Now if Jeremy had said that I wonder what the reaction would have been ?

I'm not sure that is exactly what he said. I believe he was heavily involved in the NI peace talks in the past, so he was making the point that you should never rule out sitting down with a group or faction at some stage. No doubt some clever journalist was trying to trap him into saying he was an ISIS sympathiser or something like that, but any serious negotiator will never rule out talking to some people at some hypothetical stage in the future. Which is basically all he said.

And I am neither pro or con him, just pro the facts and stories not getting manipulated by the press

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I'm not sure that is exactly what he said. I believe he was heavily involved in the NI peace talks in the past, so he was making the point that you should never rule out sitting down with a group or faction at some stage. No doubt some clever journalist was trying to trap him into saying he was an ISIS sympathiser or something like that, but any serious negotiator will never rule out talking to some people at some hypothetical stage in the future. Which is basically all he said.

And I am neither pro or con him, just pro the facts and stories not getting manipulated by the press

Quite - I didn't get what the fuss was all about re OS and ISIS other than it was yet another over-egged news story that was picked up and used to confect exaggerated shock/horrow/how could he headlines and statements.

In any case - whether OS or JC it most likely matters not a jot as Labour will have to win back most Scottish seats to have any chance of getting into government once the Tories have finished with their gerrymandering of the Westminster constituencies.

 

[Oohmeoldbacksknackered]

Quite - I didn't get what the fuss was all about re OS and ISIS other than it was yet another over-egged news story that was picked up and used to confect exaggerated shock/horrow/how could he headlines and statements.

In any case - whether OS or JC it most likely matters not a jot as Labour will have to win back most Scottish seats to have any chance of getting into government once the Tories have finished with their gerrymandering of the Westminster constituencies.

Smith has said that he won't back leaving the EU until we have another referendum, I believe.
That may do him some good in Scotland, but I think he's forgetting that a huge number of labour constituencies voted Brexit.
I think that saying his supporters are stupid and their decisions can't be trusted may put more votes back in Corbyn's camp than it'll win for him.

 

[SocketRocket]

Quite - I didn't get what the fuss was all about re OS and ISIS other than it was yet another over-egged news story that was picked up and used to confect exaggerated shock/horrow/how could he headlines and statements.

In any case - whether OS or JC it most likely matters not a jot as Labour will have to win back most Scottish seats to have any chance of getting into government once the Tories have finished with their un-gerrymandering of the Westminster constituencies.

Fixed that for you

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Fixed that for you

whichever - the new boundaries will make it ever harder for Labour in England - well that's how I understand it, and without Scotland a Labour Westminster government seems to be a very long way off. Labour might as well have JC in that case.