Jeremy Corbyn

[chippa1909]

I see Corbyn has appointed English MP Dave Anderson as Shadow Secretary for Scotland AND Northern Ireland.
This Westminster malarky is descending into a bigger farce every day.

 

[Hobbit]

Jeremy, you may well have the support of the rank and file members but your management team, i.e. the Labour MP's, don't want you. Please call an election for the leadership. This will either endorse your position, and put the MP's in their place, or you'll get a clear message to go.

Westminster is in turmoil, and Labour aren't in a position to take advantage of it. You are the one delaying it.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

He is waiting for Chilcot which may be a game changer.

 

[MegaSteve]

Jeremy, you may well have the support of the rank and file members but your management team, i.e. the Labour MP's, don't want you. Please call an election for the leadership. This will either endorse your position, and put the MP's in their place, or you'll get a clear message to go.

Westminster is in turmoil, and Labour aren't in a position to take advantage of it. You are the one delaying it.

We are in need of a 'credible' opposition but I'd rather it not be at the expense of the party taking a step to the right... Back to its recent[ish] Blair/Brown positioning...

Not sure if Eagle or Smith are any more 'electable' than Jezza either...

 

[Old Skier]

Corbyn is a puppet for the trade unions.

I voted for him and will again, does that make him my puppet as well :lol:

 

[Doon frae Troon]

No. it just makes you a person with a conscious. [maybe]

 

[Lord Tyrion]

You can only actually change things if you are in power. The conservatives have always known this, Tony Blair worked it out and managed to convince the rest of the party. Corbyn and his followers would rather have glorious failure as Labour did in the past. That is the reality of the situation.

 

[MegaSteve]

When Corbyn got the party leadership I thought his main task was to convince the can't be asked to be asked...

However, from the referendum, it would now appear many of the party's natural supporters are taking their votes elsewhere... Need to get those back first before returning to the main task...

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Meanwhile
Labour membership keeps rising, 50,000 in the last few months. Many of them young first time voters.
Former leaders, who have lost many elections, tell Corbyn he is doing it wrong, less than a year into his leadership.
Many Labour MP's face deselection by their constituants in two years.
Blairite MP's who signed us up to the Iraq war are wetting themselves.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Unfortunately most MP's signed up for the war, on all sides. Blairites are no more panicking than any other MP's.

Labour has a hard core rank and file who love Corbyn but the wider population will never vote for him. Classic self destruction. It reminds me of the Socialist Worker people when I was a student. Totally passionate and committed but never going to be able to do anything as outside of their circle no one will touch them. You need to appeal to more than one small group to win an election.

 

[SocketRocket]

Meanwhile
Labour membership keeps rising, 50,000 in the last few months. Many of them young first time voters.
Former leaders, who have lost many elections, tell Corbyn he is doing it wrong, less than a year into his leadership.
Many Labour MP's face deselection by their constituants in two years.
Blairite MP's who signed us up to the Iraq war are wetting themselves.

I really hope you are right that Labour will sack all their best and sensible MPs and be left with a Corbynesqe bunch of Trots who will never have a chance of winning an election as they are not what the country wants. You would think Labour would have learned better by now (but obviously not) they only stand a chance of Government if they position slightly left of centre and no amount of extreme lefty navel gazing will make them electable. Great news for the Conservatives.

 

[SocketRocket]

I voted for him and will again, does that make him my puppet as well :lol:

No, it makes you his Bitch

 

[Old Skier]

No, it makes you his Bitch

More likely my bitch. I love the left. NUT call a strike, 25% vote to go on strike and the rest of the sheep follow.

 

[Crazyface]

Meanwhile
Labour membership keeps rising, 50,000 in the last few months. Many of them young first time voters.
Former leaders, who have lost many elections, tell Corbyn he is doing it wrong, less than a year into his leadership.
Many Labour MP's face deselection by their constituants in two years.
Blairite MP's who signed us up to the Iraq war are wetting themselves.

Maybe this is why Corbyn is waiting. Members de-select all the MP's who signed up for the war, then put in Corbynites in their place, and he's off and running........into a brick wall, but hey it'll be fun to watch.

 

[Old Skier]

Maybe this is why Corbyn is waiting. Members de-select all the MP's who signed up for the war, then put in Corbynites in their place, and he's off and running........into a brick wall, but hey it'll be fun to watch.

It seems Blair and his pet poodle Allister and a few of their mates came up with a cunning plan and then sold the rest of the HOC a pup.

Corbyn himself came out with a great line to point the finger at the forces involved during the knock about in the HOC.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Maybe this is why Corbyn is waiting. Members de-select all the MP's who signed up for the war, then put in Corbynites in their place, and he's off and running........into a brick wall, but hey it'll be fun to watch.

You are correct, perhaps it will be fun to watch.
Especially the faces of the Tory/UKIP numptys who bought Corbyn votes:lol:
Two years in politics is an awfully long time. Just look what has happened in the last two weeks.

 

[SocketRocket]

You are correct, perhaps it will be fun to watch.
Especially the faces of the Tory/UKIP numptys who bought Corbyn votes:lol:
Two years in politics is an awfully long time. Just look what has happened in the last two weeks.

Thats right, so much! Nicola returning from the EU 'Persona Non Grata' and after all that head nodding.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

128,000 new members for the Labour party in the last 11 days.

Last time I looked I think the Tory party were neck and neck with the SNP on about 130,000 members.

Just checked Tories 140,000, SNP 110,000.

 

[SocketRocket]

128,000 new members for the Labour party in the last 11 days.

Last time I looked I think the Tory party were neck and neck with the SNP on about 130,000 members.

Just checked Tories 140,000, SNP 110,000.

So what does that say about them all. Out of a population of 65 million and growing by half a million a year such a piddling few want to be members of political parties.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

So what does that say about them all. Out of a population of 65 million and growing by half a million a year such a piddling few want to be members of political parties.

Labour numbers are growing fast, [480,000 full members quoted now] others, with the exception of the SNP, are falling.
It is an indicator of which party is ascending and which is failing. Who is popular, who is not.

Perhaps the Con Club members who bought Corbyn votes have created this momentum.