Old Skier
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You don't drive a ball 300 yrd as well do you.
Jeremy Corbyn
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You don't drive a ball 300 yrd as well do you.
chippa1909
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Aye. And never miss a fairway. :rofl:
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Innocent people always get caught up in conflict
The main aim when bombing will be to ensure the collateral damage is minimal
Understand in Iraq using the brimstone at the moment that damage is at zero
chippa1909
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Well until a coherent plan is put forward that looks further than the end of peoples noses, then yes. And proud to say so.
CheltenhamHacker
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That is a massive claim. Anything behind that?
richy
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Thanks for replying. I thought and hoped more of the pro bombing lot would've answered.
So if we bomb them and they retaliate by killing more innocents you'd have the same view?
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It was from a defence aid on the radio last week when talking about Brimstone - to clarify its IsIS in Iraq as opposed to Iraq War
http://recentworldnews.org/news/uk/623038/Brimstone-missiles-Islamic-State-militants-Iraq-Syria
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CheltenhamHacker
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I dont understand the reasoning here.
The status quo is not to do anything. No bombing, no nothing.
Surely it's on those who want to change that to justify it. I.e. If you think we should bomb, you have to have a damn good reason, well thought out and justified to support it.
The status quo is not to do anything. No bombing, no nothing.
Surely it's on those who want to change that to justify it. I.e. If you think we should bomb, you have to have a damn good reason, well thought out and justified to support it.
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Well they are already killing innocents and will continue to kill innocent people
It's a risk to take and you would hope that the presicion bombing will reduce their capability
Foxholer
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It's actually BECAUSE of innocent people being caught up in the conflict that we are considering action in the first place. So it's essential that we do/cause as little harm to other innocents as possible!
US targetting of the MSF hospital in Afghanistan was apparently pretty accurate too!
CheltenhamHacker
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Ahhh cheers. That's damn impressive!
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That is how good the Brimstone is - some of the trial videos have seen are amazing - putting it through car windows from thousands of feet and just blowing up that single car in a queue of 10
ColchesterFC
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Aren't the murders of innocent people in Paris a damn good reason?
CheltenhamHacker
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I believe that the murderers are all dead (or captured).
Either way, "punishment" isn't a reason. A reason is needs to be more than a knee jerk reaction. Will bombing them make things better? I have no issue at all with bombing, but i'm yet to hear a well thought out reason behind it, that considers more than the next 1-2 months. Short term thinking (from the 1940's up to the current day) has got us into this mess, can't we just think a little bit more?
CheltenhamHacker
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Just to add, we (the west as a whole) have killed innocent people in the middle east, in their hundreds/thousands. It doesn't justify them bombing us now, does it...
chippa1909
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It's not the accuracy of Brimstone that worries me, it's the accuracy of the "intelligence" that picks the targets that worries me.
ColchesterFC
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Bombing will make things better IF we are able to take out the guys running the training camps and HQ's and planning future attacks. Then it would be about prevention rather than punishment.
To flip things around, what if there is another attack in London in the next few months that can be undeniably traced back to a training camp in Syria that we have intelligence of and know the location. Ten potential suicide bombers go to this camp to train for an attack and we know they are there. We have the option to take them out but don't and they go on to carry out their attacks in London killing hundreds of innocents. Isn't it exactly that situation that we should be prepared and planning for and having the option to eliminate the problem at source in Syria?
Old Skier
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In their thousands. When did that happen or are we going back to the crusades
Iraq 2!
