Jeremy Corbyn

[Hobbit]

Well, if his first official engagement, at St Pauls today for a commemorative service for the Battle of Britain is anything to go by, Mr Corbyn isn't going to turn over a new leaf. A distinct lack of respect IMO.

And if he doesn't swear an oath of allegiance he won't become a member of the Privy Council, which means he won't be at many important briefings. This is the politics of political anarchy. Engage with the system and change it from within, you can't achieve anything if you stand outside of the room... Wonder if he knows how many Labour supporters are ex/current armed forces, and how many more votes he's just tossed away?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Well, if his first official engagement, at St Pauls today for a commemorative service for the Battle of Britain is anything to go by, Mr Corbyn isn't going to turn over a new leaf. A distinct lack of respect IMO.

He didn't sing the national anthem. If you hadn't sung it for decades - if ever - why would you change? Would strike me as being hypocritical for him to sing it if he hasn't in the past. Not a big deal.

 

[Hobbit]

He didn't sing the national anthem. If you hadn't sung it for decades - if ever - why would you change? Would strike me as being hypocritical for him to sing it if he hasn't in the past. Not a big deal.

If he was still a backbencher I'd agree with you, but he's now the leader of that party. His behaviour reflects on the party. Strong character, without a doubt, but naïve in this instance. He's tossing votes away like confetti...

 

[Spuddy]

If he was still a backbencher I'd agree with you, but he's now the leader of that party. His behaviour reflects on the party. Strong character, without a doubt, but naïve in this instance. He's tossing votes away like confetti...

I'm glad he is sticking to his principles. To be honest, he couldn't win either way. If he sang it then he would be called a hypocrite. If he doesn't sing it then the royalists get all upity.

 

[Imurg]

He didn't sing the national anthem. If you hadn't sung it for decades - if ever - why would you change? Would strike me as being hypocritical for him to sing it if he hasn't in the past. Not a big deal.

Because he can't really be totally anti-establishment any more - he's right in the middle of it.
He's Leader of a major political party and obviously has a view to being the next PM.
Should the miracle happen and he wins, he has to go to Liz2 to be asked to form a Government
She's going to tell him to get on his bike unless he swears allegiance..
The whole thing is farcically comical....

 

[FairwayDodger]

Anyone who is even slightly bothered whether someone does/doesn't sing the national anthem is just looking to find fault. Complete non-issue IMO.

 

[DCB]

He didn't sing the national anthem. If you hadn't sung it for decades - if ever - why would you change? Would strike me as being hypocritical for him to sing it if he hasn't in the past. Not a big deal.

He could at least have worn a proper suit and had his shirt properly buttoned and his tie properly knotted. Lack of respect given the occasion.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

He could at least have worn a proper suit and had his shirt properly buttoned and his tie properly knotted. Lack of respect given the occasion.

He looks perfectly respectfully dressed in the pictures I've seen.

Anyway - I 'doffed my cap' about half hour ago as I watched what looked like half doz Hurricanes fly over my house.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Jeremy Corbyn is not going to change just because he is leader. Many people like him because he does not conform and does not toe the line. He doesn't like to wear a tie so he doesn't. Not wearing a tie is not showing a lack of respect. If he goes out and buys a new suit, smart tie etc then that would look like the spin doctors had got hold of him. This is Jeremy Corbyn, accept it or just get angry but he is not going to change.

Being a Republican means he will not swear allegiance to the monarch and in the unlikely event that he wins the next election then there is frankly nothing the monarch can do about that. The monarchy is there for ceremonial purposes only, nothing more.

Corbyn is not my cup of tea but some of the complaints about him are ridiculous. Fine if he was on parade ground but he is a civilian, not a Private. If you are getting upset at this point then some people are really going to have to get some beta blockers over the next few months.

 

[Spuddy]

Jeremy Corbyn is not going to change just because he is leader. Many people like him because he does not conform and does not toe the line. He doesn't like to wear a tie so he doesn't. Not wearing a tie is not showing a lack of respect. If he goes out and buys a new suit, smart tie etc then that would look like the spin doctors had got hold of him. This is Jeremy Corbyn, accept it or just get angry but he is not going to change.

Being a Republican means he will not swear allegiance to the monarch and in the unlikely event that he wins the next election then there is frankly nothing the monarch can do about that. The monarchy is there for ceremonial purposes only, nothing more.

Corbyn is not my cup of tea but some of the complaints about him are ridiculous. Fine if he was on parade ground but he is a civilian, not a Private. If you are getting upset at this point then some people are really going to have to get some beta blockers over the next few months.

I actually think some people will spontaneously combust if he turns up at the cenotaph wearing a white poppy rather than a red one.

 

[c1973]

Anyone who is even slightly bothered whether someone does/doesn't sing the national anthem is just looking to find fault. Complete non-issue IMO.

Agree if it's Joe Public.

Disagree when you are representing a national party/organisation etc. No individual is bigger than who they represent an all that.

 

[c1973]

Well, he managed to get General Franco mentioned in his maiden (as leader) speech.

I wonder how long before we get the Sandinistas, Che Guevara, Pol Pot and other student union staples of days gone by mentioned.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I actually think some people will spontaneously combust if he turns up at the cenotaph wearing a white poppy rather than a red one.

Well let them combust he'd say. And many will applaud him for sticking by his principles. He probably thinks he could have a short shelf life - so will absolutely not want to compromise in his beliefs and principles for what could be short term expediency.

 

[FairwayDodger]

Agree if it's Joe Public.

Disagree when you are representing a national party/organisation etc. No individual is bigger than who they represent an all that.

But we all need to be mindlessly obeisant to a privileged family? Don't think so, this is still a democracy. He's opposed to the monarchy so good on him for sticking to his principles.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Well let them combust he'd say. And many will applaud him for sticking by his principles. He probably thinks he could have a short shelf life - so will absolutely not want to compromise in his beliefs and principles for what could be short term expediency.

Yes, agree with him or not at least he is going to stick to his beliefs and principles. That is why people voted for him and I suspect his opinion will be that the people who are offended by his lack of tie or dislike of the monarchy are unlikely to vote for him anyway. You can't lose voters who wouldn't vote for you anyway.

The Cenotaph questions have already started so Spuddy is correct. That is going to be an interesting one. I don't expect him to compromise but we shall see.

 

[Old Skier]

I don't care if he doesn't wear a tie but if he's going to wear one could someone ask his mummy to put it on properly and do his top button up.

 

[Old Skier]

The Cenotaph questions have already started so Spuddy is correct. That is going to be an interesting one. I don't expect him to compromise but we shall see.

The same thing came out when Foot attended. Although he stuck to his smelly donkey jacket a red poppy did appear. I think with all that has gone on this year it would take a very foolish leader of the opposition to go against that particular trend.

 

[c1973]

But we all need to be mindlessly obeisant to a privileged family? Don't think so, this is still a democracy. He's opposed to the monarchy so good on him for sticking to his principles.

Of course we don't.

Democracy is a system of Governance, nothing to do with national anthems and whether you sing them tbf.

It's a 'national' anthem though. For the 'nation', representing the 'nation'. Fair do's HRH does get a wee mention......but it is the recognised national anthem.

If he were to somehow end up representing the nation then I'd say it's a poor show if he won't sing said nations national anthem. But that ain't gonna happen, so no need to worry on that score I suppose.

 

[FairwayDodger]

Of course we don't.

Democracy is a system of Governance, nothing to do with national anthems and whether you sing them tbf.

It's a 'national' anthem though. For the 'nation', representing the 'nation'. Fair do's HRH does get a wee mention......but it is the recognised national anthem.

If he were to somehow end up representing the nation then I'd say it's a poor show if he won't sing said nations national anthem. But that ain't gonna happen, so no need to worry on that score I suppose.

Na, you can't ignore the lyrics, not buying that one.

 

[c1973]

The same thing came out when Foot attended. Although he stuck to his smelly donkey jacket a red poppy did appear. I think with all that has gone on this year it would take a very foolish leader of the opposition to go against that particular trend.

I believe his 'people' have already stated he'll wear a Red one......although I'm sure I came across a report saying he 'might not' attend. Who knows.