MegaSteve
Tour Winner
Seriously, I know there are those who would vote Conservative if they put a monkey up for election...
Only possible explanation for the MP I have...
Jeremy Corbyn
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Seriously, I know there are those who would vote Conservative if they put a monkey up for election...
Only possible explanation for the MP I have...
Neil Hamilton, Anne Winterton, Nicholas Winterton. Three of the most repulsive MP's we have ever seen, all close to each other in the heartland of Tory Cheshire back in the day. All 3 were repeatedly voted in by their constituents. Up here in the NE we have utterly inept MP's with red rossettes. Both parties will have nailed on seats where no matter how awful or inept the MP people will keep on voting for them.
Neil Hamilton was my MP for a while and I would happily have campaigned for any monkey that stood against him.
Neil Hamilton was my MP for a while and I would happily have campaigned for any monkey that stood against him.
FairwayDodger
Money List Winner
The trouble is you'll never get a candidate or political party whose views entirely match your own. You need to pick the best match based on your subjective view of how their beliefs and policies align to your own.
Labour certainly didn't excite me last time round but they got my vote because all the other options were so unpalatable to me.
Next time, who knows, I don't see the tories or SNP becoming any less despicable so the question is will Corbyn make Labour more or less appealing.
Looking at this...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34209478
I'd have to say I agree with most of the 24 points on this list. But I also disagree strongly on some of them. So it's a case of wait and see, which seems a rational point of view that any "floating" voter should take.
Labour certainly didn't excite me last time round but they got my vote because all the other options were so unpalatable to me.
Next time, who knows, I don't see the tories or SNP becoming any less despicable so the question is will Corbyn make Labour more or less appealing.
Looking at this...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34209478
I'd have to say I agree with most of the 24 points on this list. But I also disagree strongly on some of them. So it's a case of wait and see, which seems a rational point of view that any "floating" voter should take.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Which is rather like the Scottish Labour MPs - voted in - election after GE - until - en masse they weren't. You'd have thought they'd have spotted the tsunami coming - but denial is a strong emotion. Perhaps as the Indy referendum defeat was seen as being the beginning of the end of the SNP...this election of Corbyn to leader of Labour...
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
He is a man with principals and he sticks to them, which is to be applauded in a modern politician. But once the Tory propaganda machine, ie most of the written press, gets on his case he will stand no chance of election.
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c1973
Guest
So, he's not being just a wee bit smug yet hypocritical at the same time, nah?
'Look at me I'm ever so green.........Ill just get a taxi to travel over here to pick me up and then go where I'm going'.
More environmentally friendly to take a car in the first place!
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c1973
Guest
Well his politics are from 40yrs back, I kinda felt it was appropriate.
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c1973
Guest
100% agree.
But I'll never vote for republicans that praised the murdering scumbags that terrorised and killed innocent UK citizens........I'd like to think that would be a red line for any sane minded individual to be perfectly frank.
I'd vote Conservative just to keep them out of power.
FairwayDodger
Money List Winner
This has been alluded to quite a lot but I must admit that I don't know the truth of it. I'd like to see not only precisely what was said but also understand the context before forming an opinion.
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c1973
Guest
From the BBC website.
There were controversies along the way - in 2003 he told a gathering to commemorate the IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands: "It's about time we started honouring those people involved in the armed struggle. It was bombs and bullets and sacrifice made by the likes of Bobby Sands that brought Britain to the negotiating table."
Old Skier
Tour Winner
Here's quote from his now No 2
It's about time we started honouring those people involved in the armed struggle. It was the bombs and bullets and sacrifice made by the likes of Bobby Sands that brought Britain to the negotiating table. The peace we have now is due to the action of the IRA." He later said that the "deaths of innocent civilians in IRA attacks is a real tragedy, but it was as a result of British occupation in Ireland. Because of the bravery of the IRA and people like Bobby Sands we now have a peace process.[SUP][12][/SUP]
Foxholer
Blackballed
I wonder where that quote came from! :rofl:
While abhoring the use of terror by the IRA (and others), there's a certain amount of truth about the statement! Would there have been anything like the progress towards unification otherwise? I can't believe there would have!
FairwayDodger
Money List Winner
Yeah, that's pretty bad. 
There's lots of reported stuff out there in cyberland. The problem is deciphering fact from fiction. I support his view on getting around a table with the various factions where there's a conflict but would question why he legitmizes some of the more extreme organisations by inviting their supporters to speak at rallies. The UK Govt, both Labour and Cons has had a clear foriegn policy yet he's continued to fly in the face of those policies.
He clearly supports Hamas and Hezbollah, yet won't invite politicians from Isreal to respond. He argued for Iran to continue its nuclear programme yet argues that Isreal must stop their's. He ignores the rights of the Falkland islanders in favour of shared ownership with Argentina. And wants to pull out of NATO and buddy up with Putin.
Hopefully I'll get the chance to vote again for a party with a socialist heart, but it won't be Labour whilst Corbyn is at the helm.
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c1973
Guest
Yeah, that's pretty bad.
Yep. I thought so too.
Inexcusable for me. Honouring murdering terrorists.........unbelievable, just unbelievable.
Edit: just so it's crystal clear. I'm referring to John McDonnell here.
Old Skier
Tour Winner
I thought you would appreciate it.
The rest of your post may in the future come to pass but there is still a generation of people in Britain who have to many raw memories, so IMHO politically it was a statement to far. Oh and the fact that the police force in NI are still dealing with terrorist related incidents daily.
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c1973
Guest
I liked this snippet, overhead by a beeb reporter, when the shadow cabinet was being chosen......
With John McDonnell as shadow chancellor, the top posts taken by men, one backbencher tweeted "Labour needed to be better than this," while another called the appointments "a disgrace".
Then, close to midnight, a new voice, we thought it could be Simon Fletcher: "We're taking a fair amount of **** out there about women… let's make Angela… shadow first minister of State, like Mandelson, she can do PMQs… do the Angela bit now."
Then, as if on cue, a text from a Labour source: "Angela Eagle will be shadow First Secretary of State as well as Shadow Secretary for BIS. She will deputise for Jeremy Corbyn in PMQs when David Cameron is away."
So, apparently you don't get positions based on talent at all, it's all about perception..........We're getting flack for not having enough women, quick shove a woman into a decent position now.......ah, equal opportunities for all.
With John McDonnell as shadow chancellor, the top posts taken by men, one backbencher tweeted "Labour needed to be better than this," while another called the appointments "a disgrace".
Then, close to midnight, a new voice, we thought it could be Simon Fletcher: "We're taking a fair amount of **** out there about women… let's make Angela… shadow first minister of State, like Mandelson, she can do PMQs… do the Angela bit now."
Then, as if on cue, a text from a Labour source: "Angela Eagle will be shadow First Secretary of State as well as Shadow Secretary for BIS. She will deputise for Jeremy Corbyn in PMQs when David Cameron is away."
So, apparently you don't get positions based on talent at all, it's all about perception..........We're getting flack for not having enough women, quick shove a woman into a decent position now.......ah, equal opportunities for all.
chrisd
Major Champion
I liked this snippet, overhead by a beeb reporter, when the shadow cabinet was being chosen......
With John McDonnell as shadow chancellor, the top posts taken by men, one backbencher tweeted "Labour needed to be better than this," while another called the appointments "a disgrace".
Then, close to midnight, a new voice, we thought it could be Simon Fletcher: "We're taking a fair amount of **** out there about women… let's make Angela… shadow first minister of State, like Mandelson, she can do PMQs… do the Angela bit now."
Then, as if on cue, a text from a Labour source: "Angela Eagle will be shadow First Secretary of State as well as Shadow Secretary for BIS. She will deputise for Jeremy Corbyn in PMQs when David Cameron is away."
So, apparently you don't get positions based on talent at all, it's all about perception..........We're getting flack for not having enough women, quick shove a woman into a decent position now.......ah, equal opportunities for all.
I would have thought any woman (or man for that matter) would be best avoiding a shadow cabinet post in what is going to be the most farcical of parties!
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
USA, South Africa, Israel, Republic of Ireland etc are just a few examples of states founded on 'terrorism'.
USA, South Africa, Israel, Republic of Ireland etc are just a few examples of states founded on 'terrorism'.
