Doon frae Troon
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I don't think so, especially if it backfires on them, then it will just be really funny.
The present Labour party are banning many left wing voters so the few hundered either side will probably balance out.
Jeremy Corbyn
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I don't think so, especially if it backfires on them, then it will just be really funny.
The present Labour party are banning many left wing voters so the few hundered either side will probably balance out.
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c1973
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http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffee...easiest-campaign-in-modern-political-history/
Quite possibly an accurate take on why Corbyn is unelectable to the UK electorate.
Quite possibly an accurate take on why Corbyn is unelectable to the UK electorate.
chrisd
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So, am I right that you can vote Labour all your life and now be banned as you're left wing, like a prospective leader who isn't banned?
6inchcup
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Count me in best £3 i have spent for a long time:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
Foxholer
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Totally agree!
And that he got 35 fellow MPs to nominate him is equally scary!
After changing the procedure when the 'excessive influence' of unions selected the wrong Miliband brother, this could well turn out to be a complete disaster for Labour's hopes for 2020 election success! Should he win, I predict he'll be deposed before 2020, but that won't help his successor.
UK politics needs an effective opposition, with acceptable alternative policies. If led by Corbyn, Labour won't provide that!
Doon frae Troon
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Or perhaps why he is..........someone had to start the peace process in NI
I like his quote on wars/conflicts........... 'they all inevitably end in political compromise, why not start that process sooner'.
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c1973
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Correct.
And to think he would never have been nominated if most of those 35 hadn't loaned him their vote.
In your opinion. Personally, as someone who has voted Labour in the past, albeit not in the last two elections, a Labour/SNP would see hell freeze over before I'd vote Labour again. And to reiterate, if Labour allied themselves to the SNP I could see an awful lot of English Labour voters who'd feel similarly.
MegaSteve
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Supporting a party with a liar for a leader I suspect telling a porky [to get your vote] comes easy...
'Cheats' shouldn't prosper ask Justin Gatlin...
SwingsitlikeHogan
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He's unelectable as UK PM as the bottom line is that the majority of folks in the UK don't really care for anything or anybody that would hurt their wallet. Many won't want to admit this and so will use any and many other reasons for not supporting anyone or anything that might. Many other issues might influence - but all secondary IMO.
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You're definitely not wrong there. And I'm one of those people that wants to control where my money goes. For example, I've recently set up another DD to another charity that does sterling work in the UK.
And if Corbyn got in, he'd be choosing where my money goes. I don't like his ideas on who our "friends" would be, and I definitely don't want my money going in those directions, whether its via aid or direct support.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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And that is where we have fundamental differences. I find the figures for the last budget pretty disgraceful and shocking to be honest - but there will be lots of folk in the 7-9 decile thinking - hey great - we're all right,
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...s-will-be-800-worse-off-by-2019-10379236.html
A few houses up the road from us there's a single parent family, mum and 3 children aged 18, 16 & 12. Wall mounted (huge)TV's in the kids bedrooms, inc Sky, Big double fridge freezer recently delivered. Takeaways delivered several nights a week, and in the pub with the kids several afternoons a week. Recently, she's complained bitterly that she's had to go out and get a part time job because her benefits have been cut. In other words, she sees benefits as a lifestyle choice she is happy with. Sorry, but she needs to get off her.... and get a full time job.
There are some failings with what the Tories are doing, but I don't want to go back to seeing benefits as a lifestyle choice people are happy with.
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Have the same issue near us
Married couple - she works in a nursing home and appears to leave every morning around 6 and is home late
He hasn't worked a day since we moved there - have 4 kids - 3 cars , his car gets changed every 6 months
He was going mental at someone recently because he was told his benefits were being cut and he had to go out and work
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
It is always easy to find examples to prove the point you are trying to make - that there are feckless and work-shy out there. We all know that. But that does not excuse or justify policies that are hell bent on eviscerating public services and hammering the poorest of our society. And all for the sake of the absolute necessity - so we are told - of cutting the deficit - a deficit that the Tories tell us came about through reckless spending by the last Labour government on public services (schools, hospitals?) and benefits - spending let us not forget fully endorsed by Osborne and his crew.
When the truth is that the deficit was brought about by the financial crash and bailing out the banks; and the austerity measures are aimed at enabling the Tories to provide the better off of society (including I'd guess almost everyone on these board) with tax cuts prior to the next GE. Meanwhile IDS has his eyes on disability allowances.
And since you mention the workshy - I can point at a friend about to move into a £1.5m house and who takes 3-4 holidays a year - whose daughter gets a grant of £7500 a year from the government because she doesn't have any income. And that is a grant not a loan. And I can give a number of similar examples of the wealthy fleecing us - and if I can then many others will be able to do likewise.
So Jeremy Corbyn's halt to austerity and 'leftist' policies? - maybe we do need a bit of readjusting in that direction
When the truth is that the deficit was brought about by the financial crash and bailing out the banks; and the austerity measures are aimed at enabling the Tories to provide the better off of society (including I'd guess almost everyone on these board) with tax cuts prior to the next GE. Meanwhile IDS has his eyes on disability allowances.
And since you mention the workshy - I can point at a friend about to move into a £1.5m house and who takes 3-4 holidays a year - whose daughter gets a grant of £7500 a year from the government because she doesn't have any income. And that is a grant not a loan. And I can give a number of similar examples of the wealthy fleecing us - and if I can then many others will be able to do likewise.
So Jeremy Corbyn's halt to austerity and 'leftist' policies? - maybe we do need a bit of readjusting in that direction
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We'll never even come close to agreeing Hogie. All I read in your post is the cuddly, soft left wing rubbish the revolves around spending our way out of the deficit. I don't want to queue up at the hole in the wall like the Greeks.
Get yourself into Wetherspoon's any afternoon and then tell me there isn't enough money at the lower end of society.
FairwayDodger
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Not the worst statement ever on the forum, but pretty close. Really disappointing to read such a small-minded opinion.
Maybe after you check out Wetherspoon's you could try your local foodbank?
Ethan
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But the majority of people in the UK regularly vote against their economic interest. They have been conned into thinking the economy works like a household budget but it doesn't. However it allows the Tories to prosecute their ideological campaign to reduce welfare spending based on a few rare and a few fictional examples that shock the readers if the Daily Mail. What they don't realise is that their pension and free at the point of use NHS is next on the list. The Tories don't give a toss for ordinary propel, never have, never will.
Corbyn's economic proposals are considered by economists, who know the economy is not like a current account, to be fairly sound
http://www.theguardian.com/politics...anti-austerity-policies-corbynomics?CMP=fb_gu
As for meting Gerry Adams, Corbyn was a noted supporter of peace. At the same time as that 80s photo, Thatcher had officials meeting Adams in secret, afraid to tell the public, and were also protecting mass murderers like Pinochet and paedos like various politicians and celebs about whom they knew.
I'll take Corbyn over the Tories every day of the week.
I'm in the local food bank every month, working. What small minded thing do you do Kaz?
FairwayDodger
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You're a mass of contradictions then - how can you make such a terrible statement? I'd have believed it from others but genuinely shocked to see it from you.
