Jeremy Corbyn

Liverpoolphil said:
Why would any party enter into any agreement or coalition with a party whose main aim is to leave the UK ?!

Lost count the amount of times you keep suggesting it
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Why would they not if it meant having an actual say in running the country.

It will probably be 10 years until the SNP go for another referendum [unless Cameron takes the UK out of Europe]
Labour will have time to re-group in England by then, they also know that they are finished in Scotland now.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Why would they not if it meant having an actual say in running the country.

It will probably be 10 years until the SNP go for another referendum [unless Cameron takes the UK out of Europe]
Labour will have time to re-group in England by then, they also know that they are finished in Scotland now.
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Jezza, representing a London constituency, will be wary [or at least he should be] of a party that has a senior member who has stated he wishes to 'punish' Londoners...
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Why would they not if it meant having an actual say in running the country.

It will probably be 10 years until the SNP go for another referendum [unless Cameron takes the UK out of Europe]
Labour will have time to re-group in England by then, they also know that they are finished in Scotland now.
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Read this slowly - Because the SNP want to split up the country they want to run - it really cant be any simpler for you to understand.

Not one single party will ever work alongside another party that wants to leave the UK.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Read this slowly - Because the SNP want to split up the country they want to run - it really cant be any simpler for you to understand.

Not one single party will ever work alongside another party that wants to leave the UK.
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But the SNP cannot split up the UK today or tomorrow, next month or next year - or probably not for another 5-10 yrs. Meanwhile many aspects of what made the UK a great and compassionate place to live in are being ditched and destroyed by the Tories - and these things will difficult if not impossible to get back.

So if it is necessary for Labour to get into bed with the SNP to stop the Tories and their destruction of our society, then that is surely what Labour must do. And that does not suggest that Labour are one iota more supportive of the long term goals of the SNP - nor make the long term goals of the SNP more likely to come about. In fact it would make them more likely to recover their position against the SNP in Scotland, weakening the SNP, and also make Labour more likely to win a Westminster majority in the future.
 
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Liverpoolphil said:
Read this slowly - Because the SNP want to split up the country they want to run - it really cant be any simpler for you to understand.

Not one single party will ever work alongside another party that wants to leave the UK.
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How about Plaid Cmyru:lol:

Last time I looked Labour had quite a few more seats than the SNP so how will the SNP control Labour.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
But the SNP cannot split up the UK today or tomorrow, next month or next year - or probably not for another 5-10 yrs. Meanwhile many aspects of what made the UK a great and compassionate place to live in are being ditched and destroyed by the Tories - and these things will difficult if not impossible to get back.

So if it is necessary for Labour to get into bed with the SNP to stop the Tories and their destruction of our society, then that is surely what Labour must do. And that does not suggest that Labour are one iota more supportive of the long term goals of the SNP - nor make the long term goals of the SNP more likely to come about. In fact it would make them more likely to recover their position against the SNP in Scotland, weakening the SNP, and also make Labour more likely to win a Westminster majority in the future.
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Good post.
 
And so whilst I might raise a cheer for Jeremy Corbyn - I'm hoping that Yvette Cooper wins the leadership. With her Labour has at least got a chance in 2020 - no point in waiting for pigs to fly with Corbyn.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
But the SNP cannot split up the UK today or tomorrow, next month or next year - or probably not for another 5-10 yrs. Meanwhile many aspects of what made the UK a great and compassionate place to live in are being ditched and destroyed by the Tories - and these things will difficult if not impossible to get back.

So if it is necessary for Labour to get into bed with the SNP to stop the Tories and their destruction of our society, then that is surely what Labour must do. And that does not suggest that Labour are one iota more supportive of the long term goals of the SNP - nor make the long term goals of the SNP more likely to come about. In fact it would make them more likely to recover their position against the SNP in Scotland, weakening the SNP, and also make Labour more likely to win a Westminster majority in the future.
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"and their destruction of our society" Oh dear! Haa, haaaa, haaaaaaa!!!! my sides are splitting. You really are a drama queen.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
We'll see. Clearly as you find it sooo funny I don't suppose you give much of a stuff what happens to others seriously and painfully impacted by their policies.
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You mean those policies that are creating a country where more and more people have the opportunity to get jobs and improve their lives.

"Painfully impacted" There you go again :rolleyes:
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
let's see - 3 months in they've only just started.
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Yet more rhetoric and still no facts.

I sometimes envy the politically one-eyed.

It must be so easy with one side always being right and the other to blame for all our troubles.

Sadly, perhaps, I take a more balanced view seeing good and bad on all sides of the political divide.
 
MetalMickie said:
Yet more rhetoric and still no facts.

I sometimes envy the politically one-eyed.

It must be so easy with one side always being right and the other to blame for all our troubles.

Sadly, perhaps, I take a more balanced view seeing good and bad on all sides of the political divide.
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let's see where we are in a few years time.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
But the SNP cannot split up the UK today or tomorrow, next month or next year - or probably not for another 5-10 yrs. Meanwhile many aspects of what made the UK a great and compassionate place to live in are being ditched and destroyed by the Tories - and these things will difficult if not impossible to get back.

So if it is necessary for Labour to get into bed with the SNP to stop the Tories and their destruction of our society, then that is surely what Labour must do. And that does not suggest that Labour are one iota more supportive of the long term goals of the SNP - nor make the long term goals of the SNP more likely to come about. In fact it would make them more likely to recover their position against the SNP in Scotland, weakening the SNP, and also make Labour more likely to win a Westminster majority in the future.
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Doon frae Troon said:
Good post.
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In your opinions.

Personally, what a load rubbish!

I've voted Labour in the past, and hope to again in the future. But with either Corbyn in, or most definitely if the ally themselves to the SNP, my vote will be blue. And I dare say there's quite a few who see it the same way.
 
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