Jeremy Corbyn

[MegaSteve]

I feel a few are overlooking DaveCam won't be leading the tories at the next election...

Or, is that another 'porky'..

 

[Billythefish]

When I said "we" I meant "the Country", I didnt mean "the conservative party" ( im not a member either)
as for triumphalism, far from it, it was a warning note that , absolute power corrupts absolutely....... Good job im a moderate mod

The country needs a crcedible opposition, however I don't see labour ever being credible. From gordoncashing in the pensions, to selling off the gold, to blairs illegal wars, to the winter of discontent, power cuts, rubbish in the streets, open door immigration.

Look at the tube drivers for a vision of a corbyn government. 50k a year, 43 days holiday for a 36 hour week. And the working people of our capital cant get to work. Solidarity at its finest.

The country needs a good opposition, but is safer in blue hands rather than red.

 

[bluewolf]

The country needs a crcedible opposition, however I don't see labour ever being credible. From gordoncashing in the pensions, to selling off the gold, to blairs illegal wars, to the winter of discontent, power cuts, rubbish in the streets, open door immigration.

Look at the tube drivers for a vision of a corbyn government. 50k a year, 43 days holiday for a 36 hour week. And the working people of our capital cant get to work. Solidarity at its finest.

The country needs a good opposition, but is safer in blue hands rather than red.

introduction of the minimum wage, 78,000 more nurses, devolved power in Scotland, a Welsh assembly, the overseas aid budget doubled, 30,000 more teachers, winter fuel payments to pensioners, halved waiting times in the NHS, free school milk and fruit, the Disability Rights Commission, free entry to museums and galleries, the Good Friday agreement, paternity leave, civil partnerships.

and that's just a quick summary of the last Labour Government.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

introduction of the minimum wage, 78,000 more nurses, devolved power in Scotland, a Welsh assembly, the overseas aid budget doubled, 30,000 more teachers, winter fuel payments to pensioners, halved waiting times in the NHS, free school milk and fruit, the Disability Rights Commission, free entry to museums and galleries, the Good Friday agreement, paternity leave, civil partnerships.

and that's just a quick summary of the last Labour Government.

Yep but apart from that what did Labour ever do for us

 

[bluewolf]

Yep but apart from that what did Labour ever do for us

The NHS, the Welfare State, the repeal of anti trade union laws etc etc etc. but then again, some on here would think these were bad things.

 

[MegaSteve]

Look at the tube drivers for a vision of a corbyn government. 50k a year, 43 days holiday for a 36 hour week. And the working people of our capital cant get to work. Solidarity at its finest.

Yep, living in Wolverhampton, I am sure you are fully up to speed on what the current action is all about...

 

[Billythefish]

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The NHS, the Welfare State, the repeal of anti trade union laws etc etc etc. but then again, some on here would think these were bad things.

the nhs, in a right state, privatise it. Anti trade union laws. The tube drivers are showing exactly where the unions stand, solidarity?

You keep voting for em


#votejezcomrade

 

[Doon frae Troon]

And what percentage of the UK voted SNP?

50% in the area where they had candidates.:lol:

62% in the latest polls for Holyrood 2016.

 

[bluewolf]

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the nhs, in a right state, privatise it. Anti trade union laws. The tube drivers are showing exactly where the unions stand, solidarity?

You keep voting for em


#votejezcomrade

It's such a shame there isn't a lower IQ limit to this thread....

 

[Billythefish]

Yep, living in Wolverhampton, I am sure you are fully up to speed on what the current action is all about...

clutching at straws? I don't live in london so have no opinion on how the people that are supposedly represented by the unions are being halted in trying to get to work? For 50 k a year?

Try again brother 6/10 and thats being generous

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Please show some evidence of that. I would suggest the vast majority of pensioners are Conservative.

I was talking fashion wise.

 

[Billythefish]

It's such a shame there isn't a lower IQ limit to this thread....

ok pal. You copy and paste lefties are full of it. With no arguments.

Tell me please, do you think the tube drivers are right, not in their right to strike, but in that they have a raw deal? 50k a year, 36 hour week, 43 (yes 43) days holiday.

Simple yes or no will suffic

 

[Doon frae Troon]

What I do not get is that nearly all folks are saying that Labour will be powerless if Corbyn wins.

All he has to do is enter a mutual agreement with the SNP and the progressive coalition parties [inc Lib/Dems].
This will leave the Tories with a very small majority and virtually powerless.
The three parts of the Tory party will then soon start to eat themselves and consensus politics will rule.

 

[bluewolf]

ok pal. You copy and paste lefties are full of it. With no arguments.

Tell me please, do you think the tube drivers are right, not in their right to strike, but in that they have a raw deal? 50k a year, 36 hour week, 43 (yes 43) days holiday.

Simple yes or no will suffic

i don't know enough about the dispute to use it as an argument for or against any particular Party or Organisation.

However, in my working life so far, I have worked on the shop floor and in senior management. I've negotiated for and against Trade Unions. I've witnessed over zealous Union Representatives and belligerent bully boy company owners. I've witnessed numerous strike votes and seen the extent that people have been pushed to before they've even considered withholding their labour. I consider myself qualified enough to state that the World is a better place with Trades Unions, even though they don't always get it right.

 

[MegaSteve]

clutching at straws? I don't live in london so have no opinion on how the people that are supposedly represented by the unions are being halted in trying to get to work? For 50 k a year?

Try again brother 6/10 and thats being generous

I guess you read the Mail as they only ever mention the drivers in their scribblings overlooking the fact that the majority taking action aren't drivers and are on considerably less than the 50K they [and you] like to keep quoting... London is looking forward to seeing the back of Boris next year and a considerable improvement in our lot..

 

[Deleted member 15344]

What I do not get is that nearly all folks are saying that Labour will be powerless if Corbyn wins.

All he has to do is enter a mutual agreement with the SNP and the progressive coalition parties [inc Lib/Dems].
This will leave the Tories with a very small majority and virtually powerless.
The three parts of the Tory party will then soon start to eat themselves and consensus politics will rule.

Why would any party enter into any agreement or coalition with a party whose main aim is to leave the UK ?!

Lost count the amount of times you keep suggesting it

 

[Doon frae Troon]

ok pal. You copy and paste lefties are full of it. With no arguments.

Tell me please, do you think the tube drivers are right, not in their right to strike, but in that they have a raw deal? 50k a year, 36 hour week, 43 (yes 43) days holiday.

Simple yes or no will suffic

I don't think the Clockwork Orange drivers are on that sort of money and terms, don't think that they are going on strike either.

 

[Billythefish]

i don't know enough about the dispute to use it as an argument for or against any particular Party or Organisation.

However, in my working life so far, I have worked on the shop floor and in senior management. I've negotiated for and against Trade Unions. I've witnessed over zealous Union Representatives and belligerent bully boy company owners. I've witnessed numerous strike votes and seen the extent that people have been pushed to before they've even considered withholding their labour. I consider myself qualified enough to state that the World is a better place with Trades Unions, even though they don't always get it right.

Thanks for an argument rather the previous smear, no need.

 

[Billythefish]

I guess you read the Mail as they only ever mention the drivers in their scribblings overlooking the fact that the majority taking action aren't drivers and are on considerably less than the 50K they [and you] like to keep quoting... London is looking forward to seeing the back of Boris next year and a considerable improvement in our lot..

guess again.

 

[Billythefish]

I don't think the Clockwork Orange drivers are on that sort of money and terms, don't think that they are going on strike either.

ok.

As long as you 'think' that it was is going on we should all be ok.