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yep, Corbyn is proving ineffective, the shouting just seems faked from him.
Can you imagine the rest of us behaving like that at work?
2 party politics at its worst, very tedious.
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yep, Corbyn is proving ineffective, the shouting just seems faked from him.
Can you imagine the rest of us behaving like that at work?
2 party politics at its worst, very tedious.
howbow88
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Unfortunately I've found that at big businesses, shouting over each other in meetings to get points across is par for the course. And the higher up you go, the worse it tends to get.
drdel
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I'm afraid his past association with some very dubious characters has, IMO, meant he's not an honourable man. Even the security services are wary of sharing sensitive information and yet some want him as PM.
SocketRocket
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I have never experienced such behaviour at management or board level. You wouldn't survive five minutes.
SocketRocket
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He gets worse! What a game playing cretin.
I think this current issue is showing he's been promoted above his ability.
There are a lot on both sides who are in that camp. If we started writing a list it could go on for some time
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As I read this morning...
Corbyn will meet the IRA and Hezzbollah, but he won't meet the Prime Minister to talk about the biggest issue we've had in decades.
Corbyn will meet the IRA and Hezzbollah, but he won't meet the Prime Minister to talk about the biggest issue we've had in decades.
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Gove was a chief architect of the mess we're in now, yet he gets plaudits for hammering Corbyn just a few hours after talk of cross party working - great way to get about it! The tribalism is very detrimental. Why should Corbyn now jump on board when he knows May will offer nothing but her current deal. Right wing press all over it but neglecting to mention Corbyn has only asked that May rule out No Deal before meeting, nothing more. We know parliament wont allow no deal so what's May's problem? They're all 'at it' and the policy failure remains a Tory problem, if all Tory MPs had voted with Govt on Tuesday May's deal would have been done despite DUP going against, there were enough Labour rebels and independents to carry it I think but apparently it's now all Corbyn's fault Brexit is in an impasse.
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Of course it isnt Corbyn's fault, but the point stands! The Tories under May are executing their plan to stay with comendable precision. (doesnt mean I like the direction of travel) Dont forget her postion on the EU has been constant, and (like Heath) the EU will not forget her service.
After the 2nd Ref, they will point to "the people decided to stay in" and thats the end of it. General Election will return Tories and Labour will fire Corbyn. Mind you, none of it will matter when full terms of Lisbon Treaty start to crystalise.
After the 2nd Ref, they will point to "the people decided to stay in" and thats the end of it. General Election will return Tories and Labour will fire Corbyn. Mind you, none of it will matter when full terms of Lisbon Treaty start to crystalise.
jp5
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Too right maxfli. If May had been more inclusive from the start then we wouldn't be in this situation with 10 weeks to go.
Doon frae Troon
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Gove was a chief architect of the mess we're in now, yet he gets plaudits for hammering Corbyn just a few hours after talk of cross party working - great way to get about it! The tribalism is very detrimental. Why should Corbyn now jump on board when he knows May will offer nothing but her current deal. Right wing press all over it but neglecting to mention Corbyn has only asked that May rule out No Deal before meeting, nothing more. We know parliament wont allow no deal so what's May's problem? They're all 'at it' and the policy failure remains a Tory problem, if all Tory MPs had voted with Govt on Tuesday May's deal would have been done despite DUP going against, there were enough Labour rebels and independents to carry it I think but apparently it's now all Corbyn's fault Brexit is in an impasse.
Well said.
There are only about 100 of the 'swivel eyed loon' types of Tory's who will vote for a no deal Brexit. The other 200+ are quite sensible.
Yet the far right wing attack Corbyn for demanding that May drops a no deal Brexit.
She trumpets that the SNP are working with her but their demands are exactly the same as Corbyns.
She is wasting everyones time and playing daft wee games whilst the country goes to hell in a handcart.
The 'cash for votes' DUP are now effectively running Government policy on Brexit, whatever happened to take back control
drdel
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The issue is the structure of the HoC not Tories/TM. If JC were PM it would be the same problem for Labour. The in/out EU debate has rattled around in the HoC and HoL for decades.
You'd rather have JC and Labour doing the deal !; but don't for one moment think that will change the EU's stonewalling in fear for their edifice and Federalist goals. If that's the view then your living in cuckoo land.
londonlewis
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Hugo Chavez documentary on last night had old footage of Corbyn banging out his enthusiastic support for the man and the great he was doing for the country. Doesn't help his socialist cause that Venezuela dove into deep poverty within 20 years (14 years of Chavez and 6 years of Maduro). At least we could get rid of Corbyn more easily before he ruined the economy!
And Corbyn was on the Sunday morning politics programme stating he is a socialist, in case no one knew!
And Corbyn was on the Sunday morning politics programme stating he is a socialist, in case no one knew!
Doon frae Troon
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Yes, I would rather have Labour in charge than the DUP.
I am not desperately worried though as my first preference is an Independent Scotland in the EU.
In that case a walk away deal would be best option other than the impact it would have on my English and Welsh friends and relatives.
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Independent Scotland in the EU? Contradiction in terms? (I actually laughed out loud in the office!)
They are looking for net-contributers, or places they can break like Greece and Italy. Which is it for you?
They are looking for net-contributers, or places they can break like Greece and Italy. Which is it for you?
Doon frae Troon
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Do you mean that countries like France, Spain, Estonia and Germany are NOT independent.
It would be a brave man to tell them that.
SocketRocket
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If Corbyn, Blackstock. Cable etc had been more inclusive from the start then we wouldn't be in this situation with 10 weeks to go.
Captainron
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Corbyn is a (insert many many expletives here) and if he ever got into power then we are all in trouble
Theresa May was given an impossible job with the brexit withdrawal. No one could have done the job when everyone in parliament has their own version of brexit in their heads.
Theresa May was given an impossible job with the brexit withdrawal. No one could have done the job when everyone in parliament has their own version of brexit in their heads.
