Jamie Carrahger.

[Deleted member 16999]

Read what I said. Not condoning it but I'm pointing out that it seems common place in many workplaces that drunk driving isn't as stigmatised by the employer in the same way as sexist, racist behaviour or anything as unpleasant as spitting. I don't think it's right but is she the only one. Chris Tarrant was convicted recently and I doubt he'll be shunted off a TV screen and not allowed to work again.

They both work for Sky, does Tarrant?

Never seen anyone ask if the footballers who have done it on the pitch be sacked? Why him?
Have you watched the video, even the dads not bothered, he carries on filming and instead of checking on his daughter or losing his rag, he says something like “oooh look at that Jamie Carragher has just spat on my daughter”

Carragher is disgusting but this media and faux outrage is ridiculous.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

They both work for Sky, does Tarrant?

Never seen anyone ask if the footballers who have done it on the pitch be sacked? Why him?
Have you watched the video, even the dads not bothered, he carries on filming and instead of checking on his daughter or losing his rag, he says something like “oooh look at that Jamie Carragher has just spat on my daughter”

Carragher is disgusting but this media and faux outrage is ridiculous.

Simple question. If the bloke wasn't bothered how did it get plastered on social media? If he wasn't bothered, why not goad Carrager, face the reaction and carry on? To be honest I'm done. I think Carragher was an idiot, and has to face the consequences of his actions

 

[Pin-seeker]

They both work for Sky, does Tarrant?

Never seen anyone ask if the footballers who have done it on the pitch be sacked? Why him?
Have you watched the video, even the dads not bothered, he carries on filming and instead of checking on his daughter or losing his rag, he says something like “oooh look at that Jamie Carragher has just spat on my daughter”

Carragher is disgusting but this media and faux outrage is ridiculous.

Didn’t you recently say that spitting is worse than being physically attacked due to potential spread of disease?

 

[fundy]

sky and double standards?

i assume merson still has a job too?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Simple question. If the bloke wasn't bothered how did it get plastered on social media? If he wasn't bothered, why not goad Carrager, face the reaction and carry on? To be honest I'm done. I think Carragher was an idiot, and has to face the consequences of his actions

He wanted 5 minutes of fame! His daughter asks time and time again for him to stop.
Why didn’t he take the video to the police?

I agree, like everyone else, Carragher was an idiot, but only a few seem to want to sacked.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Didn’t you recently say that spitting is worse than being physically attacked due to potential spread of disease?

Where have I said anything different this time or defended what Carraghers done? When we discussed the West Ham player spitting I don’t remember anyone asking for him to be sacked!

 

[Pin-seeker]

Where have I said anything different this time or defended what Carraghers done? When we discussed the West Ham player spitting I don’t remember anyone asking for him to be sacked!

Paul I’m simply asking a question,why get so defensive?

So you think that Carragher spitting at her is worse than actually physically attacking her,but the media outrage is rediculous?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Paul I’m simply asking a question,why get so defensive?

So you think that Carragher spitting at her is worse than actually physically attacking her,but the media outrage is rediculous?

I’m sure we can all come up with a story that didn’t happen to suit our agenda.

He didn’t spit at her, he spat at the car, she was an innocent victim or are you saying he saw a kid and thought “I’ll spit on her”

He’s disgusting, and if the police charge him, no sympathy, it’s the crap about Sky having no choice, Gallagher was 3 times over the limit and wasn’t even suspended.

 

[Pin-seeker]

I’m sure we can all come up with a story that didn’t happen to suit our agenda.

He didn’t spit at her, he spat at the car, she was an innocent victim or are you saying he saw a kid and thought “I’ll spit on her”

He’s disgusting, and if the police charge him, no sympathy, it’s the crap about Sky having no choice, Gallagher was 3 times over the limit and wasn’t even suspended.

No agenda here Paul.
Carragher may or may not have seen the child,but he intentionally spat inside the car,potentially spreading disease (as you previously pointed out).
So even if the flem was aimed at the father,surely you view this as worse than Carragher physically assaulting the man?

I’ve not even mentioned Gallacher.
My point was that you viewed spitting worse than physical assault,but now you’re saying that the outrage is rediculous.

 

[User101]

Someone let me know when he's been executed please, ta :thup:

 

[Beezerk]

He’s disgusting, and if the police charge him, no sympathy, it’s the crap about Sky having no choice, Gallagher was 3 times over the limit and wasn’t even suspended.

It's hard to compare the two, but these days with social media, 24 hour news and everyone with a smart phone filming stuff, if you get caught on camera doing something distasteful you're essentially doomed as it's all around the world in seconds. Judgement by Twitter, Facebook etc, it's just how it is these days, a sad reflection of society to be honest.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

No agenda here Paul.
Carragher may or may not have seen the child,but he intentionally spat inside the car,potentially spreading disease (as you previously pointed out).
So even if the flem was aimed at the father,surely you view this as worse than Carragher physically assaulting the man?

I’ve not even mentioned Gallacher.
My point was that you viewed spitting worse than physical assault,but now you’re saying that the outrage is rediculous.

You mean when I said that and you tried to ridicule me?

Carragher’s action was, once again, disgusting and totally out of order, I don’t believe he purposely spat at anyone and was spitting at the car, you bringing what ifs into it are irrelevant, if he had intentionally spat on another person then I’d be quite happy to see him done by the police.

Do you think West Ham shoukd of sacked their player and the police charged him?

 

[PhilTheFragger]

Can we calm down a bit guys, lots of outrage on show.

My tuppenny worth.

JC simply should know better than to get wound up by an idiot, the spitting shows the lack of class of the man, he is in the public eye and should know that the press/ social media will jump on any indiscretions. He has to face the consequences of this one.

The idiot bloke who did the taunting needs the book throwing at him, filming while driving and then uploading it all over social media shows a complete disregard for the law of cause and affect,
Didn’t his brain register that he might get into trouble for posting it up? DOH.

Feel sorry for the girl , caught in between 2 total plums.

As for Kirsty Gallagher, I recall she was done for drunk driving the morning after the night before, she took a taxi home the previous evening.
I’m sure some of us here are saying “there for the grace of God go I”
So I have some sympathy with her, but she has been dealt with by the court, banned, and has taken the kick up the backside positively by giving up alcohol, getting in shape and re structuring her life.

The difference between the 2 cases are one was trial by social media, the other trial by due process of law

 

[Deleted member 16999]

It's hard to compare the two, but these days with social media, 24 hour news and everyone with a smart phone filming stuff, if you get caught on camera doing something distasteful you're essentially doomed as it's all around the world in seconds. Judgement by Twitter, Facebook etc, it's just how it is these days, a sad reflection of society to be honest.

People are demanding Sky sack him, like someone posted before, they need to be watertight before they do, the Gallagher case was worse for me, she was 3 times over the limit, she’s one of their high profile presenters as she not only does the news and there was no were near the fuss.

Also believe not enough questions are being asked about the driver and his motives and parenting skills.

Agree with your post.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

You mean when I said that and you tried to ridicule me?

Carragher’s action was, once again, disgusting and totally out of order, I don’t believe he purposely spat at anyone and was spitting at the car, you bringing what ifs into it are irrelevant, if he had intentionally spat on another person then I’d be quite happy to see him done by the police.

Do you think West Ham shoukd of sacked their player and the police charged him?

Big difference though a player to a pundit

Players hold most of the power in life.. many fans called for Masuaku to be sold off because of it.. but football forgives tones of wrong doings on the pitch..

Suarez the biting Racist,
Cantana the fan kicker
Di canio the ref pusher
Barton the thug

the difference is Carragher is easily replaced and worth almost nothing to sky.. they pay him yes but how easy could it be to replace with say Frank lampard who is an up and coming pundit..

players hold the power at clubs and can basically get away with what they want

when it comes to pundits if they don't toe the line their gone.. ala Gray and Keys

 

[fundy]

Can we calm down a bit guys, lots of outrage on show.

My tuppenny worth.

JC simply should know better than to get wound up by an idiot, the spitting shows the lack of class of the man, he is in the public eye and should know that the press/ social media will jump on any indiscretions. He has to face the consequences of this one.

The idiot bloke who did the taunting needs the book throwing at him, filming while driving and then uploading it all over social media shows a complete disregard for the law of cause and affect,
Didn’t his brain register that he might get into trouble for posting it up? DOH.

Feel sorry for the girl , caught in between 2 total plums.

As for Kirsty Gallagher, I recall she was done for drunk driving the morning after the night before, she took a taxi home the previous evening.
I’m sure some of us here are saying “there for the grace of God go I”
So I have some sympathy with her, but she has been dealt with by the court, banned, and has taken the kick up the backside positively by giving up alcohol, getting in shape and re structuring her life.

The difference between the 2 cases are one was trial by social media, the other trial by due process of law

most of faux outrage a la troll

 

[Pin-seeker]

You mean when I said that and you tried to ridicule me?

Carragher’s action was, once again, disgusting and totally out of order, I don’t believe he purposely spat at anyone and was spitting at the car, you bringing what ifs into it are irrelevant, if he had intentionally spat on another person then I’d be quite happy to see him done by the police.

Do you think West Ham shoukd of sacked their player and the police charged him?

So Carra didn’t even realise that the window was wound down when he spat at it?
Or just a bad shot?

I’ve never mentioned the police charging him.

Personally I would like to see a club sacking a player for spitting at someone,but it won’t happen.
In a ideal world Liverpool would have sacked Suarez for biting people,but no team would wash their hands on millions.

 

[Beezerk]

People are demanding Sky sack him, like someone posted before, they need to be watertight before they do, the Gallagher case was worse for me, she was 3 times over the limit, she’s one of their high profile presenters as she not only does the news and there was no were near the fuss.

Like Phil says though it was the day after, it's not like she drove home from the pub hammered. For me it's not as bad, but I'm in no way condoning drink driving obviously, I just think the it's a lesser version of drink driving in a way.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Like Phil says though it was the day after, it's not like she drove home from the pub hammered. For me it's not as bad, but I'm in no way condoning drink driving obviously, I just think the it's a lesser version of drink driving in a way.

3 times over the limit isn’t even close to being borderline though is it and she wouldn’t of had her kids in a car, in this particular case I personally believe it’s far worse.

 

[User101]

Like Phil says though it was the day after, it's not like she drove home from the pub hammered. For me it's not as bad, but I'm in no way condoning drink driving obviously, I just think the it's a lesser version of drink driving in a way.

She musta been in some nick to still be 3 times over the limit the following day.