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Itv leaders debate.

Doon frae Troon said:
Aye, that one is up there with the bombing Scottish airports and forcing Scots to drive on the left stuff.
Amazing what some folk actually believe.

Please read the facts and not what was planted by the 'Ministry of Disinformation'.
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And you know this story to be untrue. Why?

Because a politician says so?

Let's face it all politicians, like journalists, have the same potential for misleading the public.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Aye, that one is up there with the bombing Scottish airports and forcing Scots to drive on the left stuff.
Amazing what some folk actually believe.

Please read the facts and not what was planted by the 'Ministry of Disinformation'.
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are you not the head of that organisation:rolleyes:
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Aye, that one is up there with the bombing Scottish airports and forcing Scots to drive on the left stuff.
Amazing what some folk actually believe.

Please read the facts and not what was planted by the 'Ministry of Disinformation'.
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Aye, along with the claim that legal advice had been sought and given (it hadn't) with regards to an independent Scotland joining the EU.

Tell me, from your undoubtedly vast political knowledge, how much public money did the snp spend taking this to court to prevent the truth (that they blatantly lied to public and parliament alike) from coming out?
Facts? The snp and there support wouldn't know a fact if it bit them on the arse!

You carry on up the garden path with them auld yin.


The highlighted part gave me a right good chuckle btw. :thup:

BTW, I've always driven on the left......do you not?

Oh, and one of our airports was attacked....did you miss that fact?

:)
 
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Foxholer said:
Without sending this thread further off-topic than it already is (it seems to have taken over from the 'Election 2015' one rather than what the Title is!).....



And with all those groups 'against' it, surveys still indicated that the majority of the UK Electorate were in favour of it! I would also expect that a high number of Conservatives to vote against the Bill, as they are by inclination...conservative! It wasn't half though, but was more than voted for it!



Seems you are happy (keen even) to discuss the subject all the same! Does that mean you have a particular view (different to what Parliament's one was)? Or are you merely highlighting the nature of the Westminister system when an issue that is not part of the Government's Manifesto arises?
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The Gay Marriage issue is a bit of a red herring. I suggested a whole raft of issues that had affected many Tory's and also Labour supporters. I suggested that due to these issues many had become disenfranchised and were now supporting UKIP, suggesting that this was a major influence on their increased ratings in the polls.
 
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Sturgeon's words would probably resonate with a lot of people. She naturally wants SNP to win every seat but reluctantly sees Cameron as a competent and plausible PM than Ed. I watched that leaders debate and cringed almost every time Ed said something. And I have never voted Tory in my life.
 
Ethan said:
Sturgeon's words would probably resonate with a lot of people. She naturally wants SNP to win every seat but reluctantly sees Cameron as a competent and plausible PM than Ed. I watched that leaders debate and cringed almost every time Ed said something. And I have never voted Tory in my life.
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Ethan.... they were not her words.

They were inserted up by a minor Whitehall staffer trying to please his boss.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Aye, that one is up there with the bombing Scottish airports and forcing Scots to drive on the left stuff.
Amazing what some folk actually believe.

Please read the facts and not what was planted by the 'Ministry of Disinformation'.
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The problem the SNP have is people will believe it, then people will lose trust.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Ethan.... they were not her words.

They were inserted up by a minor Whitehall staffer trying to please his boss.
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You know this how?

It wouldn't be the first time the snp have been caught out lying (as pointed out earlier) would it?
Why should we believe them now?

It would suit their long term separatist agenda better, and most people with even the vaguest understanding of politics should be able to see that.
 
c1973 said:
You know this how?

It wouldn't be the first time the snp have been caught out lying (as pointed out earlier) would it?
Why should we believe them now?

It would suit their long term separatist agenda better, and most people with even the vaguest understanding of politics should be able to see that.
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Why is Cameron quoting this false comment today.
Is he really so desperate to try to benefit from an obviously false document issued by his government.
Interesting to see the Foreign Office now claim that no such document exists. [so how could it be leaked]
 
You have to ask yourself, in order to make your mind up, have the Telegraph got previous for exposing ministerial 'misunderstandings',and, have the snp got previous for blatantly lying to the public?

Yes, on both counts.

I'll go with the investigative reporter on this one.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Why is Cameron quoting this false comment today.
Is he really so desperate to try to benefit from an obviously false document issued by his government.
Interesting to see the Foreign Office now claim that no such document exists. [so how could it be leaked]
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Politics, dear boy, politics.

Why would they admit to interfering? Would you? Would the snp (even when caught lying)?
 
Old Skier said:
Politicians are know for their lies and deception. I believe both sides :)
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Yes indeed. Used to be those caught blatantly lying to their parliament done the decent thing and removed themselves from office though.
 
Seems some on here are quite happy to have the UK government's officers spreading false propaganda against one of it's political parties.
I am more than a bit concerned about it myself. Start of a slippery slope.
 
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