Itv leaders debate.

[Deleted member 18588]

Was speaking with my brother this morning - he lives in Aberdeen and is a senior guy in a big Civil Engineering Company working in the oil industry. Says all the doom and gloom about the oil price etc and impact on Aberdeen is largely exaggerated.

He's finding it curious that Labour/Tories are keeping on at the SNP as he's seeing support growing for the SNP the more they do.

So are you suggesting that Holyrood and the SNP were crying wolf when they asked Westminster for action and support for the industry.

With projects being scrapped and mothballed it is hard to see a good picture for the North Sea oil industry in the short to medium term.

 

[TigerIsAmazing]

Was speaking with my brother this morning - he lives in Aberdeen and is a senior guy in a big Civil Engineering Company working in the oil industry. Says all the doom and gloom about the oil price etc and impact on Aberdeen is largely exaggerated.

He's finding it curious that Labour/Tories are keeping on at the SNP as he's seeing support growing for the SNP the more they do.

ahh so one snr guy in a company that probably has loads of work just now says its all exaggerated, I'll tell the people I know who have been laid off, I'm sure they will feel better

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

So are you suggesting that Holyrood and the SNP were crying wolf when they asked Westminster for action and support for the industry.

With projects being scrapped and mothballed it is hard to see a good picture for the North Sea oil industry in the short to medium term.

I'm saying my brother - who should know about these things - is not convinced that there is any great medium term issue. Maybe in the short term there is but he's not concerned about the medium term future.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

I'm saying my brother - who should know about these things - is not convinced that there is any great medium term issue. Maybe in the short term there is but he's not concerned about the medium term future.

You are not the only one with familial connections. My son is employed within the oil & gas industry and his company, who have to take a medium to long term view are far from convinced of the future for North Sea and North Atlantic projects.

Either way Holyrood seems pretty concerned.

 

[SocketRocket]

And it beggars my earlier question - do the Tories what Labour wiped out in Scotland as that would mean Labour having a almost nil chance of a majority; or do they want the SNP stamped on by Labour as the SNP are a danger to the UK, defence, economy etc? Despite their fervent anti-SNP and anti Sturgeon/Salmond rhetoric, I think that the Tories actually want the SNP to wipe the floor with Labour in Scotland.

Does it really matter to them? Whether the Scottish MP's are Labour or SNP they are the opposition, it's whether they are enough to bring down the Queen's speech, Budget or a confidence vote

 

[c1973]

Sunday Politics on the beeb, and she's off again....talking over the top of everyone, she just cannot stop herself.

Again she's unable to explain the £7 Billion black hole and how it would be funded. I wouldn't trust her to get the weekly shop in.

Growth would need to be double that of the UK, which is the fastest growing economy in Europe (I believe). That's some magic wand she possesses.


Absolutely shambolic. I wouldn't encourage any of them with a vote. Sturgeons a disgrace, Murphy is marginally less so, Davidson is sitting back saying not very much and.......who's that other fella?

 

[Beezerk]

Sunday Politics on the beeb, and she's off again....talking over the top of everyone, she just cannot stop herself.

Bully politics a bit like her predecessor.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Does it really matter to them? Whether the Scottish MP's are Labour or SNP they are the opposition, it's whether they are enough to bring down the Queen's speech, Budget or a confidence vote

Does it really matter to the Tories? Dunno - but they must have a view - and I'd like to hear what it is. SNP wipe out Labour or Labour successfully repulse SNP?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Bully politics a bit like her predecessor.

Perhaps - but she's not as Bovril divisive as her predecessors.

 

[Beezerk]

Perhaps - but she's not as Bovril divisive as her predecessors.

I like Bovril.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I like Bovril.

Doesn't mean you like Marmite.

 

[SocketRocket]

Does it really matter to the Tories? Dunno - but they must have a view - and I'd like to hear what it is. SNP wipe out Labour or Labour successfully repulse SNP?

Yes, they will have a view. it's probably that both are a pain in the butt to them and they would rather people voted Tory.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Yes, they will have a view. it's probably that both are a pain in the butt to them and they would rather people voted Tory.

I think so also. They make lots of noise about how awful and dangerous the SNP are but secretly want them to do really well

Curious times; interesting times.

 

[TigerIsAmazing]

I think so also. They make lots of noise about how awful and dangerous the SNP are but secretly want them to do really well

Curious times; interesting times.

can I ask where this comes from as that's not what is being potrayed? or is it your opinion?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

can I ask where this comes from as that's not what is being potrayed? or is it your opinion?

As said - I have no idea myself that's why I'd like to hear whether Tories want the SNP rejected given dangerous the SNP are...

But Labour wins 40 seats? - they could have a majority without the SNP support. SNP wins 40 seats? Tories have a go at creating a government - and Labour require SNP support for a working majority if the Tories can't. And then the Tories can attack Labour for tying up even loosely with the 'dangerous' SNP. Seems to me that Labour wiped out by the SNP is the best of two not that great outcomes in Scotland for the Tories.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Hence why i will vote for no one

Out of interest LP - did you vote in the end? If you did what changed your mind?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

LibDem MPs in Scotland - And then there was one...?

DfT said 4th April

OK over to you.........proof of her saying it please................ one minor Whitehall officer trying ingratiate himself with his boss's thinking.
Unless you know better.

Why are the Foreign Office saying no memo exists?

Straight question for you DfT.........

IF it turns out that these comments are proved to have been said and Nicola Sturgeon has lied do you think she should have to resign?

Or maybe now the ex-Scottish Secretary should become an ex-MP. Sheeesh!

 

[ColchesterFC]

LibDem MPs in Scotland - And then there was one...?

DfT said 4th April





Or maybe now the ex-Scottish Secretary should become an ex-MP. Sheeesh!

In response to the first part of your post it turns out that regardless of the truth of what was contained in it the memo did actually exist despite the Foreign Office saying it didn't.

And for the second part of of your post. Yes I absolutely think that Alistair Carmichael should resign having been caught lying about this.

And I'm fairly sure that DfT never actually answered that one or any of the other questions that were put to him directly if the answers didn't fit with his agenda.