SocketRocket
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Yes, Golfs very much like that!
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Yes, Golfs very much like that!
Adi2Dassler
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The Labour party: a bit like a **** amateur golfer!
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c1973
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Maybe because 'honesty is the best policy'?
Or, indeed it could be that 'any fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do'.
Personally, I'm glad they are constantly attacking them, even though I do believe it could be political suicide for them in Scotland in the short term, but in the long term it's the correct thing to do. It's what the opposition do in politics you know.
Why should the snp not be attacked on wanting to blame anything bad that happens on those bad folk at Westminster, while wanting all the credit for anything good that happens up here?
Ethan
Money List Winner
Maybe because 'honesty is the best policy'?
Or, indeed it could be that 'any fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do'.
Personally, I'm glad they are constantly attacking them, even though I do believe it could be political suicide for them in Scotland in the short term, but in the long term it's the correct thing to do. It's what the opposition do in politics you know.
Why should the snp not be attacked on wanting to blame anything bad that happens on those bad folk at Westminster, while wanting all the credit for anything good that happens up here?
Honesty? This is politics. These guys don't deal in honesty. If they believed in honesty, they could also comment on their relationships with donors and the city, what their real plans are of the NHS and what Bush and Blair really talked about.
The SNP have baited Labour and the Tories into attacking them, knowing it smacks of anti-Scottishness and shores up the SNP vote, as well as making some 'No' voters wonder if they made the right decision. Very clever politics.
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c1973
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If you look closely you'll see the main thrust of my response was the inclusion of a couple of Benjamin Franklin quotes (thats the honesty part) directed at the previous post (containing a Benjamin Franklin quote). It wasn't really intended as a statement that I believe they are honest.
I'm in no doubt the snp are playing them (Labour in particular should have foreseen this issue when they gave the go ahead for that expensive, waste of public cash at Holyrood). But, I stand by my short term/long term belief alluded to in my post.
Edit: Forgot to add. I for one don't believe it is 'anti Scottish' to attack the snp, but I'm not that easily fooled.
I can, however, see how others have been hoodwinked into believing that particular lie foisted on the public during the referendum campaign.
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Adi2Dassler
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Maybe because 'honesty is the best policy'?
Or, indeed it could be that 'any fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do'.
Personally, I'm glad they are constantly attacking them, even though I do believe it could be political suicide for them in Scotland in the short term, but in the long term it's the correct thing to do. It's what the opposition do in politics you know.
Why should the snp not be attacked on wanting to blame anything bad that happens on those bad folk at Westminster, while wanting all the credit for anything good that happens up here?
Of course it's good for the democratic process, highlighting any failing in any party is good for the electorate.But my point is Labour can't gain anything from it in Scotland, or at least that's what polling suggests.They should try something different if they want to make headway into the almost 50% polling The SNP have.
Or they could just pull out of Scotland and save cash/energy.IF there's to be another election, they're nearly skint already, so save the cash.
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c1973
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I get your point, if you read my post you'll see I kind of agree with you.
I still think they (and others) should be attacking the snp though.
As I mentioned, short term it's possibly not doing any good, but I reckon that's got more to do with a point Val made about the snp being the trendy party at the moment, that, imo, will pass. They'll still get votes, quite possibly an increase on where they were a few years ago, but this, again imo, is their peak in terms of voter popularity in a UK election.
The 'pretend parliament' is another argument though, I reckon they will do well there....until Labour get their act together, but they'll have to do that sharpish or they'll lose a lot of core support to the snp, permanently (in terms of Scottish elections). And, I don't see an out and out leader that can unify the factions within Labour into an effective party, as it was under Tony Blair. Labour have got problems up here.
I'm not commenting on your second paragraph, cos yer just being daft!
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Strange stuff....it seems the more popular Jim Murphy becomes the lower Labour polls.
Old Skier
Tour Winner
I think you have your history mixed up. The cavalry in 1914 was more like having a bow and arrow against a machine gun.
This was the WMD of that time when they learnt how to use them. Something the Calvary could never get to grips with.
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c1973
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Cyber (g)nats at it again I see (retweeting)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-scotland-32241974
Fairplay to whoever does Sturgeons Twitter account, at least they apologised to the lassie. Might even have been Lego heid herself, credit where it's due.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-scotland-32241974
Fairplay to whoever does Sturgeons Twitter account, at least they apologised to the lassie. Might even have been Lego heid herself, credit where it's due.
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Foxholer
Blackballed
You may have missed Doon's point! The implication - to me - was that Trident is expensive and outdated! Wouldn't know about it being outdated, but that's quite possibly the reason a replacement is being checked out.
Btw. That Tank looks like 1917 technology, Tanks (Landships) weren't used (by UK) until 1916!
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
No I did not.
Having a weapon that no one will use makes it a non weapon.
The next generation will be more worried about attacks like the recent alleged IS hit on French TV multiplied to Wall Street and London SE.
Plus specific germ warfare like spreading the Ebola virus in major western cities.
No one will know what group/country will have caused the damage so no one to attack with WMD.
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SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
You don't seem to get the concept of a Nuclear Deterrent. Why do you believe no one will use them?
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Because my father told me in 1963
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/...se-next-lot-of-trident-missiles-2015040997173
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
No! Like someone doing the same things and expecting a different result.
CheltenhamHacker
Journeyman Pro
So yeh, like an a rubbish amateur golfer!
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
If I were to go down this metaphorical route I'd perhaps suggest that Cyberwarfare is to Trident what German Disregard was to the Maginot Line.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Reading into the background of this I discover that it was the Lib Dem Voice website that matched the lass on QT with a Labour supporter. The Nats supporters then picked up on it and tweeted their idiocy - to their discredit.
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c1973
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It was Nats MSPs that were 'retweeting' as well(Not sure if that's the correct terminology, can't be arsed with Twitter/Facebook).
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c1973
Guest
I'm still waiting on an explanation as to how they are going to fund the £7 Billion black hole in their full fiscal autonomy plan. What taxes are going up and/or where are the cuts going to be, or, would they borrow more?
Saying that other parties are returning to 'smears, as they did in the referendum' is no answer.
It's worrying that so many Scots appear to be willing to let this lot loose with the public purse. Genuinely worrying.
Saying that other parties are returning to 'smears, as they did in the referendum' is no answer.
It's worrying that so many Scots appear to be willing to let this lot loose with the public purse. Genuinely worrying.
