bluewolf
Money List Winner
I've shot level par but will never ever be a scratch golfer. I have neither the natural talent, nor the practise time. Still enjoy trying though.
Is there a scratch player in you ??
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clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
This is me as well .
You need consistency to be scratch and I have not had that level.
Did get to 1.4 a long time ago but it’s hard to do and earn a living as well.
Answer is it’s possible but unlikely.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Some very honest apraisials here , but I think we know how hard the game is so very realistic.
TBH Rory is playing like a scratch player as most of them would struggle playing pro golf where you need to be + 5/6.
I played with a lad off +4 once and he was awesome and a totally different player to the scratch lads I know.
But we can dream.
TBH Rory is playing like a scratch player as most of them would struggle playing pro golf where you need to be + 5/6.
I played with a lad off +4 once and he was awesome and a totally different player to the scratch lads I know.
But we can dream.
jamielaing
Q-School Graduate
Scratch was my (hopeful) aim when I came back to golf after 10 years away having left as a junior. This seemed like a possibility and I have dropped myself down from 13 to 5 in 4 or 5 years. It's still my target along with winning a club championship and competing for the club team.
Reality of this though is that I now need to make big changes to allow me to improve from where I am. My game is good enough- big straight drives, nice crisp iron play, good around the greens and my putting has come on tremendously. Problem is that these things don't happen all at the same time.
I believe I have the ability and skill to be scratch. It's mentality that needs work. The difference between me and a scratch player in my opinion is when I play badly I am shooting in the 80s. These guys can play badly and knock it round near level par. You need to keep yourself on a constant level to be that good.
Reality of this though is that I now need to make big changes to allow me to improve from where I am. My game is good enough- big straight drives, nice crisp iron play, good around the greens and my putting has come on tremendously. Problem is that these things don't happen all at the same time.
I believe I have the ability and skill to be scratch. It's mentality that needs work. The difference between me and a scratch player in my opinion is when I play badly I am shooting in the 80s. These guys can play badly and knock it round near level par. You need to keep yourself on a constant level to be that good.
Bazzatron
Q-School Graduate
Took me a while to realise it wasn't a video with Rory Mcilroy.
Yant
Head Pro
Pleased to say that yeah, i know there is. But being a Dad to a young son means i don't have the time to dedicate to the game to be able to get down that low, hence why i'm stuck on a 3 handicap. And i'm absolutely fine with that.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Maybe - but I'd need a good bit of time and a change in attitude to practice.
Lwatson-jones
Assistant Pro
Nope
Started later in life
No time to dedicate the numerous hours
may get to 18 before I retire!
Started later in life
No time to dedicate the numerous hours
may get to 18 before I retire!
Crazyface
Tour Winner
Possibly. I seem to be carrying enough weight around for two people so.......
Jasonr
Club Champion
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right.â€
Henry Ford
Belief is absolutely key and what we do is make a very effective job of convincing ourselves of all the reasons why we can't so we don't.
There is always a way but are you prepared to pay the price to find it?
For example am I prepared to give up my house/kids/wife/money/lifestyle/have I saved up enough to devote all my time to golf/do I do enough gym, yoga or fitness to improve/am I prepared to fight tooth and nail to overcome any physical imperfection to reach my goal (para Olympics anyone)/Age is not an excuse it would make things harder yes you would just have to be prepared to do more of the above. If Player/Nicklaus et al can still do there must be a way.
The truthful answer is no I was not prepared to give that up. I could BUT I chose not to and I can give you a gazillion justifications as to why I chose not to and who is anyone to say whether they are right or wrong but in the end it all came down to the fact that I chose not to.
Henry Ford
Belief is absolutely key and what we do is make a very effective job of convincing ourselves of all the reasons why we can't so we don't.
There is always a way but are you prepared to pay the price to find it?
For example am I prepared to give up my house/kids/wife/money/lifestyle/have I saved up enough to devote all my time to golf/do I do enough gym, yoga or fitness to improve/am I prepared to fight tooth and nail to overcome any physical imperfection to reach my goal (para Olympics anyone)/Age is not an excuse it would make things harder yes you would just have to be prepared to do more of the above. If Player/Nicklaus et al can still do there must be a way.
The truthful answer is no I was not prepared to give that up. I could BUT I chose not to and I can give you a gazillion justifications as to why I chose not to and who is anyone to say whether they are right or wrong but in the end it all came down to the fact that I chose not to.
ademac
Q-School Graduate
No chance for me. I'm shi*e and like stableford too much.
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Guest
This came up recently in discussion at my place.
I am a very frustrated golfer, I play off 4, but I believe I should be somewhere around 2 or 3. I just struggle to put a round together.
One of my playing partners (formally off scratch & over 100 county caps) said that I am more like a scratch golfer who has a couple of swing issues which prevent scoring better.
So I went to the Pete Cowan academy (on my PPs advice) for one of Pete's people to have a look at my swing on trackman & video.
He said he could see why I was frustrated, as I swing it really well (except for a small roll of the wrists at impact which lead to a pull), and so he believed with swing alone I hit it like a scratch golfer.
The problem is I keep chucking in the odd really daft shot which is why I'm not a scratch golfer. Yet!
I am a very frustrated golfer, I play off 4, but I believe I should be somewhere around 2 or 3. I just struggle to put a round together.
One of my playing partners (formally off scratch & over 100 county caps) said that I am more like a scratch golfer who has a couple of swing issues which prevent scoring better.
So I went to the Pete Cowan academy (on my PPs advice) for one of Pete's people to have a look at my swing on trackman & video.
He said he could see why I was frustrated, as I swing it really well (except for a small roll of the wrists at impact which lead to a pull), and so he believed with swing alone I hit it like a scratch golfer.
The problem is I keep chucking in the odd really daft shot which is why I'm not a scratch golfer. Yet!
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
And there's the rub. You have only quite minor swing faults - insignificant for the vast majority of us - and yet it is these that are stopping you in dead your tracks from getting to scratch.
I think I'll revise my thinking - so NO - unless something truly miraculous happens - which of course is possible - however...
Mark1751
Assistant Pro
I definitely think I could play to 9/10 but never to scratch even if I practice everyday and played 3 or 4 times a week.
Garush34
Journeyman Pro
I'd like to think there is one in there somewhere, just haven't realized how to release them yet. I can play decent golf and have reduced a lot of my issues, just can't see to get over the big number at the moment. I always have to throw one or two triples in a round that just derails my round. Single figures seems like a lifetime away never mind scratch at the moment.
ScienceBoy
Money List Winner
Frankly no and it doesn’t bother me one bit.
I don’t have the desire or ability to get that low and maintain it. I would rather spread my time across many things in life than focus on one thing to that extreme.
A constant battle to better myself, even if it’s in little increments, is more than enoigj for more. It matches my commitment and desire levels.
I don’t have the desire or ability to get that low and maintain it. I would rather spread my time across many things in life than focus on one thing to that extreme.
A constant battle to better myself, even if it’s in little increments, is more than enoigj for more. It matches my commitment and desire levels.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
There's one in me.
I know there is because every once in a while he pops his head into mine and, for a hole or two, I can make the game look easy.
Then he buggers off and leaves me to pick up the pieces again.
Safe to say I'll never play off scratch but shots that make you feel like one keep you coming back.
I know there is because every once in a while he pops his head into mine and, for a hole or two, I can make the game look easy.
Then he buggers off and leaves me to pick up the pieces again.
Safe to say I'll never play off scratch but shots that make you feel like one keep you coming back.
USER1999
Grand Slam Winner
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I am mentally weak too. Even if I had the game of a scratch golfer, I would still be a mess of self doubt. I can execute all the shots, but not if I am playing well?
You see this how I interpreted what was said, not just the odd shot but even a few holes on the trot and like you, it just goes.
Jamesbrown
Head Pro
No because I have no natural talent, and I keep getting a can of strongbow fruits from the drinks cart.
I have lessons and lessons and lessons and then I drink!
I have lessons and lessons and lessons and then I drink!
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