Is a bandit a cheat?

[bobmac]

I was brought up with the understanding that a bandit was someone who just had a good day while a cheat was someone who kept his/her handicap falsely high to give them a better chance in the big comps/opens.

Has this changed?

 

[chrisd]

That's my understanding too

 

[Pin-seeker]

If someone as a good round they might get called a bandit in jest.

But a proper bandit is someone who intentionally keeps their handicap up,a cheat.

That's how I see it anyway.

 

[Blue in Munich]

If someone as a good round they might get called a bandit in jest.

But a proper bandit is someone who intentionally keeps their handicap up,a cheat.

That's how I see it anyway.

That sums it up for me, someone who manipulates their handicap to gain an advantage.

 

[Smiffy]

If someone as a good round they might get called a bandit in jest.
But a proper bandit is someone who intentionally keeps their handicap up, a cheat.
That's how I see it anyway.

Is the correct answer.
The type of person that shoots the lights out, comes in with 44 points and is still not happy.
I had two consecutive 41 point rounds at a Cooden meet a couple of years ago. I got jokingly called a bandit, but I was as chuffed as monkey's, was beaming from ear to ear, and those two rounds will live with me for ever.

 

[irip]

For me a bandit is someone who keeps a handicap as high as possible on purpose, normally with the aim of winning big prizes in comps that they wont get cut in.

If someone has a couple of good rounds they have just hit a purple patch, and hopefully will get cut accordingly, this is what we all aim for and does not make them a bandit.

A cheat is someone who breaks the rules on purpose.

 

[Norrin Radd]

i use the term Bandit as part of the banter that is associated with someone having a good day, a cheat is someone i try not to have anything to do with .scum of the earth, a cheat knows what they are doing and keeping their h/cap falsley high is blatant cheating in my book .

 

[HawkeyeMS]

If someone as a good round they might get called a bandit in jest.

But a proper bandit is someone who intentionally keeps their handicap up,a cheat.

That's how I see it anyway.

That's how I see it

 

[Tashyboy]

If someone as a good round they might get called a bandit in jest.

But a proper bandit is someone who intentionally keeps their handicap up,a cheat.

That's how I see it anyway.

I cannot think of anything else to say but that.

The thread might as well be closed now before Europe, election, Scotland, Corbyn etc etc comes into topic somehow.

 

[Hobbit]

If someone as a good round they might get called a bandit in jest.

But a proper bandit is someone who intentionally keeps their handicap up,a cheat.

That's how I see it anyway.

Ditto...

 

[Kaizer_Soze]

If someone as a good round they might get called a bandit in jest.

But a proper bandit is someone who intentionally keeps their handicap up,a cheat.

That's how I see it anyway.

Agreed, I'm sure that all of us are capable of shooting the occasional nett 63 or 64 and we all try our best to do so every week, but the guy who deliberately plays bad to put their handicap up only to smash it in a big event..........grrrrrr

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Devils advocate, surely someone not breaking any rules can't be called a cheat, lot's of other words, but not a cheat persay.
A cheat is someone breaking a rule.

 

[guest100718]

Devils advocate, surely someone not breaking any rules can't be called a cheat, lot's of other words, but not a cheat persay.
A cheat is someone breaking a rule.

bulding a handicap is agaisnt the rules

 

[Deleted member 16999]

bulding a handicap is agaisnt the rules

But that's not the only way is it ?
If someone has an active handicap then takes 2 months off from playing in comps to practise and hopefully play better in a particular comp, what rule are they breaking?

 

[MrC]

But that's not the only way is it ?
If someone has an active handicap then takes 2 months off from playing in comps to practise and hopefully play better in a particular comp, what rule are they breaking?

In my eyes that's not building a handicap. that is playing by the rules and what we should all do sometimes. (although I may call them a bandit for a bit of fun)

Building a handicap (cheating) to me is deliberating playing bad or submitting bad scores to keep your handicap unfairly high.

I play with a guy sometimes who has a handicap of 18 - however his course is very tough. If he was a member of my club he would play off 14. I call him a bandit in jest but he definitely isn't a cheat.

 

[guest100718]

But that's not the only way is it ?
If someone has an active handicap then takes 2 months off from playing in comps to practise and hopefully play better in a particular comp, what rule are they breaking?

I dont get your point.

Its against the rules to delibratley post NRs and miss buffer etc so your handicap goes up with a view to using it in non qualifying events to increase your chances of winning.

Practicing hard in order to improve so you can win is exaclty the correct way to go about winning.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I dont get your point.

Its against the rules to delibratley post NRs and miss buffer etc so your handicap goes up with a view to using it in non qualifying events to increase your chances of winning.

Practicing hard in order to improve so you can win is exaclty the correct way to go about winning.

If I play 3 qualifiers in April so my handicap has the "c" by it and practise and enter no other qualifiers in the full knowledge that in 6-12 months I will enter a competition with my handicap falsely high, Would I not be morally cheating without breaking any rules?

 

[Hobbit]

But that's not the only way is it ?
If someone has an active handicap then takes 2 months off from playing in comps to practise and hopefully play better in a particular comp, what rule are they breaking?

Building a handicap, i.e. deliberately playing for 0.1's, is cheating. Its pretty clear in the rule book.

Practicing to improve can't possibly be cheating otherwise they'd be handing bans out to everyone that walked out of a driving range.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Building a handicap, i.e. deliberately playing for 0.1's, is cheating. Its pretty clear in the rule book.

Practicing to improve can't possibly be cheating otherwise they'd be handing bans out to everyone that walked out of a driving range.

I get that Bri, but that's not the only way as I've tried to explain above.

 

[louise_a]

A player that just puts in 3 cards a year to keep their handicap active and then cleans up in opens is a bandit, a player who plays lots of qualifiers and deliberately causes his handicap to rise is also a bandit but is cheating as well.