Is a bandit a cheat?

A player that just puts in 3 cards a year to keep their handicap active and then cleans up in opens is a bandit, a player who plays lots of qualifiers and deliberately causes his handicap to rise is also a bandit but is cheating as well.
Cheers Louise, I think you've explained my point.
 
Standing on the 1st tee knowing that your handicap is too high and expecting (not hoping, expecting) to score 40 points plus is cheating in my book.
Scum of the earth.
And no, I'm not talking about somebody who has a particularly good day and scores well, I did say EXPECTING to score 40 points plus.
 
A player that just puts in 3 cards a year to keep their handicap active and then cleans up in opens is a bandit, a player who plays lots of qualifiers and deliberately causes his handicap to rise is also a bandit but is cheating as well.

Id say theyre both cheats, if your handicap is well above your playing ability then one of those 3 cars shoulsd reflect that.
 
Id say theyre both cheats, if your handicap is well above your playing ability then one of those 3 cars shoulsd reflect that.
Why?
Only one is actually breaking the rules, but I agree both are as bad as each other and the rules should be amended to recognise that.
 
A player that just puts in 3 cards a year to keep their handicap active and then cleans up in opens is a bandit, a player who plays lots of qualifiers and deliberately causes his handicap to rise is also a bandit but is cheating as well.

Soz louise, but a player that's puts in just three cards a year ( to keep his hcap high) knows exactly what he or she is doing, especially when they clean up in opens is cheating us.
 
Soz louise, but a player that's puts in just three cards a year ( to keep his hcap high) knows exactly what he or she is doing, especially when they clean up in opens is cheating us.

this comes down to your interpretation of cheating. Doing something within the rules is not cheating in my opinion. It is morally wrong and I could not do it but that is why we have rules.

Doing something deliberate like shooting high scores on purpose because you want to keep your handicap high is cheating.

Having a high handicap because that is your level at that time then not playing a comp for a while you practice and get better is not cheating in my opinion. Although as I said it is morally wrong!
 
Having a high handicap because that is your level at that time then not playing a comp for a while you practice and get better is not cheating in my opinion. Although as I said it is morally wrong!

Out of interest, how would someone get the handicap amended (so for instance if he practise over the winter period, when there are no qualifiers), as see quite a few people Improving and then winning or finishing high, comp after comp until they level off again.

Just thought it was a result of the system.
 
Out of interest, how would someone get the handicap amended (so for instance if he practise over the winter period, when there are no qualifiers), as see quite a few people Improving and then winning or finishing high, comp after comp until they level off again.

Just thought it was a result of the system.
Their handicap won't change until they enter qualifiers, it happens at our place, we have no qualifiers Nov - Apr and this year we've had a young lad start the season on 18 and is now down to 10 after 3 Comp wins an ESR and a general play reduction.
He had played well all winter, studies sport at college and is coached every monday, he won the first stableford comp with 47 points, lots of moans about his initial 18 handicap and cries of bandit, but you can't accuse him of cheating, he'd worked hard all winter and is now reaping the benefits.
 
Ladies captains day today. It was won by a chap in his 60s. A few years ago he was seriously ill (cancer) and not expected to survive. Played off 7 at the time. Survived his illness and slowly got back into playing. His handicap has drifted back and he was given a couple of shots back in the annual review and now plays off 12.

Today he shot 74 gross for 46 points. At the presentation afterwards he happily wore a sombrero and lapped up being called a bandit all in great spirits (most were chuffed to bits for him)

Anyone want to call him a cheat?
 
Some odd comments on this thread.

If you are deliberatly maintaining a handicap higher than your playing ability then that is cheating, pretty simple really. I'd say you'd need to be looking at 4 to 5 shots to be sure.
 
Ladies captains day today. It was won by a chap in his 60s. A few years ago he was seriously ill (cancer) and not expected to survive. Played off 7 at the time. Survived his illness and slowly got back into playing. His handicap has drifted back and he was given a couple of shots back in the annual review and now plays off 12.

Today he shot 74 gross for 46 points. At the presentation afterwards he happily wore a sombrero and lapped up being called a bandit all in great spirits (most were chuffed to bits for him)

Anyone want to call him a cheat?

Obviously not, each case on its merit.
Pass on my regards to Pancho. 😃
 
Ladies captains day today. It was won by a chap in his 60s. A few years ago he was seriously ill (cancer) and not expected to survive. Played off 7 at the time. Survived his illness and slowly got back into playing. His handicap has drifted back and he was given a couple of shots back in the annual review and now plays off 12.

Today he shot 74 gross for 46 points. At the presentation afterwards he happily wore a sombrero and lapped up being called a bandit all in great spirits (most were chuffed to bits for him)

Anyone want to call him a cheat?

Not sure why you are promoting for someone to call him a cheat.

That's brilliant & even better that he milked it.
 
Not sure why you are promoting for someone to call him a cheat.

That's brilliant & even better that he milked it.

not promoting it at all, just thought it was an interesting one in light of the OP (clearly a good day not a cheat). FWIW he got a standing ovation from me as he went to pick up his prize and all the way back as he did from almost all of those present
 
Ladies captains day today. It was won by a chap in his 60s. A few years ago he was seriously ill (cancer) and not expected to survive. Played off 7 at the time. Survived his illness and slowly got back into playing. His handicap has drifted back and he was given a couple of shots back in the annual review and now plays off 12.

Today he shot 74 gross for 46 points. At the presentation afterwards he happily wore a sombrero and lapped up being called a bandit all in great spirits (most were chuffed to bits for him)

Anyone want to call him a cheat?

It might be past midnight and I might have had a few too many Somersby's but why was a guy playing in Ladies Captains Day? Do men normally play in that competition?
 
If someone as a good round they might get called a bandit in jest.

But a proper bandit is someone who intentionally keeps their handicap up,a cheat.

That's how I see it anyway.

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yep all our days like that are open to all, men play in ladies captains day, ladies play in mens captains day

At ours the ladies do get the chance to play in about four of the men's majors but only half a dozen or so play. They don't play for the main prize but the winner/runner up do get their own prize. The juniors also play in those. In respect of men playing in ladies comps, I think it is only Lady Captain's day and then it is only by invite to a maximum of eight.
 
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