Intermittent fasting

[stefanovic]

Sir Isaac Newton could never be described as 'average'!!

I doubt if he ever did any exercise and would have eaten a limited diet. He locked himself away for long periods.
Reminds me of a neighbour of mine who became a centenarian. I never saw her out jogging or doing yoga and she had simple eating habits.

Average UK life expectancy M;F 1950 66.4;71.5
Average UK life expectancy M;F 2001 76;80.6
Average UK life expectancy M;F 2011 79;82.8
Average UK life expectancy M;F 2021 82;85 (Projected)

Hardly surprising when you consider the big improvement in heath care since about 1970.
Steroid inhalers for lung conditions from 1970. Radiotherapy for cancer from the 1980's. Statins for high cholesterol from 1990's.

You are not factoring in economic change.
Yet there are over 15,000 centenarians in the UK who have lived through at least one world war and the great depression of the 1930's.
My Dad told me of how he and his siblings just hung around smelling the food, and not eating much. He died of his heart aged 80 before statins.

Life expectancy may start to drop, worldwide study suggests (healio.com)

 

[Foxholer]

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Hardly surprising when you consider the big improvement in heath care since about 1970.
Steroid inhalers for lung conditions from 1970. Radiotherapy for cancer from the 1980's. Statins for high cholesterol from 1990's.

You are not factoring in economic change.
Yet there are over 15,000 centenarians in the UK who have lived through at least one world war and the great depression of the 1930's.
My Dad told me of how he and his siblings just hung around smelling the food, and not eating much. He died of his heart aged 80 before statins.

All of which simply demonstrates why your post that I quoted was utter twaddle! Good (also disappointing) to note that you 'are hardly surprised' though! Now all you need to do is pause and think before posting self-confessed drivel!

Yet there are over 15,000 centenarians in the UK who have lived through at least one world war and the great depression of the 1930's.

I should hope they have! Frauds otherwise!

 

[Rooter]

I doubt if he ever did any exercise and would have eaten a limited diet. He locked himself away for long periods.
Reminds me of a neighbour of mine who became a centenarian. I never saw her out jogging or doing yoga and she had simple eating habits.

Rubbish, it's well documented that Newton was a regular at Bushy parkrun and was one of the first-ever people to sign up to Gousto.

 

[stefanovic]

All of which simply demonstrates why your post that I quoted was utter twaddle!

Weak use of language appears in most of your posts.

 

[Foxholer]

Rubbish, it's well documented that Einstein was a regular at Bushy parkrun and was one of the first-ever people to sign up to Gousto.

 

[stefanovic]

Rubbish, it's well documented that Einstein was a regular at Bushy parkrun and was one of the first-ever people to sign up to Gousto.

Where did I mention Einstein?
He died of his heart aged 76 and I know he liked to exercise. Cycling in particular.
I never saw my Dad out running, cycling or any other exercise and he died of his heart aged 80.

The idea that anyone should need intermittent fasting is a merely a sign of our times.
All you have to do is skip a meal occasionally.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I’ve made an initial start on the 5:2, cutting down on portions of pasta, chips and less chocolate , and lost a couple of lbs this week. But not fooled as the first lbs are the easiest.

 

[Foxholer]

Weak use of language appears in most of your posts.

1. Please explain what you mean by 'weak use of language'.
2. Simplicity works!
3. Language of the strength I'd like to use has negatve consequences!

 

[Beedee]

I’ve made an initial start on the 5:2, cutting down on portions of pasta, chips and less chocolate , and lost a couple of lbs this week. But not fooled as the first lbs are the easiest.

Unfortunately I found them for you :-(

Who knew; pizza, double deckers and wine isn't the answer I was after.

 

[Rooter]

Where did I mention Einstein?
He died of his heart aged 76 and I know he liked to exercise. Cycling in particular.
I never saw my Dad out running, cycling or any other exercise and he died of his heart aged 80.

The idea that anyone should need intermittent fasting is a merely a sign of our times.
All you have to do is skip a meal occasionally.

My bad, edited now, but to be fair, the wrong historical figure is the least of my worries in the accuracy of the information being pedaled in the whole thread!

 

[Rooter]

Back to the serious nature of the thread. I have given up all added sugars for January after a chocolate and biscuit fest of a December, already feeling sooooo much better!

I cant really do moderation when it comes to the naughty stuff!

 

[Orikoru]

Back to the serious nature of the thread. I have given up all added sugars for January after a chocolate and biscuit fest of a December, already feeling sooooo much better!

I cant really do moderation when it comes to the naughty stuff!

We were bought at least 5 boxes of chocolate for Christmas, so any purge of sugar will have to wait for now.

 

[stefanovic]

Chocolate has protein which fills you up so should not necessarily be considered harmful.
Dark chocolate may even be a kind of super food.

What a link between chocolate and Nobel prizes reveals about our trust in scientists (theconversation.com)
You cannot be serious!

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Back to the serious nature of the thread. I have given up all added sugars for January after a chocolate and biscuit fest of a December, already feeling sooooo much better!

I cant really do moderation when it comes to the naughty stuff!

My belief is that total abstinence is the only was to go if I want to change the way I think about my diet. When I discover that my life doesn’t become miserable without chocolate, sugar or chips - indeed it improves - my thinking starts to change without me having to try and make it change.

I do have a bit of a problem, especially this time of year, for since I do not drink alcohol then birthday and Christmas presents tend to be pretty exclusively focussed around chocolate…?. I am good at giving it away.??

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I doubt if he ever did any exercise and would have eaten a limited diet. He locked himself away for long periods.
Reminds me of a neighbour of mine who became a centenarian. I never saw her out jogging or doing yoga and she had simple eating habits.


Hardly surprising when you consider the big improvement in heath care since about 1970.
Steroid inhalers for lung conditions from 1970. Radiotherapy for cancer from the 1980's. Statins for high cholesterol from 1990's.

You are not factoring in economic change.
Yet there are over 15,000 centenarians in the UK who have lived through at least one world war and the great depression of the 1930's.
My Dad told me of how he and his siblings just hung around smelling the food, and not eating much. He died of his heart aged 80 before statins.

Life expectancy may start to drop, worldwide study suggests (healio.com)

So you go from “Average life expectancy has not actually risen by that much.” to
“Hardly surprising when you consider the big improvement in heath care since about 1970.
Steroid inhalers for lung conditions from 1970. Radiotherapy for cancer from the 1980's. Statins for high cholesterol from 1990's.” when you are proved wrong and then you back pedal after making such a daft comment, time for me to put my tinfoil hat on!

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Back to the serious nature of the thread. I have given up all added sugars for January after a chocolate and biscuit fest of a December, already feeling sooooo much better!

I cant really do moderation when it comes to the naughty stuff!

I build it in to my training as rewards for my efforts.?

 

[Rooter]

I build it in to my training as rewards for my efforts.?

I wish I could, but I have no will power. And you cannot out train a bad diet! (or at least I cant!)

 

[stefanovic]

So you go from “Average life expectancy has not actually risen by that much.” to
“Hardly surprising when you consider the big improvement in heath care since about 1970.
Steroid inhalers for lung conditions from 1970. Radiotherapy for cancer from the 1980's. Statins for high cholesterol from 1990's.” when you are proved wrong and then you back pedal after making such a daft comment, time for me to put my tinfoil hat on!

Clearly you have never heard of reversion to the mean, aka regression toward the mean.
The last century was one of turmoil. Up until Covid-19 the previous 50 years had done some rebalancing.
Covid-19 has disproportionally affected the overweight.

Life expectancy in populations over time can fluctuate.
You need to consider conflicts, economics, technology, health systems and other factors.
Ask yourself why the diet industry, the gym and other exercise industry is now worth billions.
It's simply because we are overeating with comparison to all the thousands of generations that preceded us.

Give up your addiction to food and eat less and you will be healthier.
What is it you don't understand about that?

 

[Foxholer]

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Life expectancy in populations over time can fluctuate.
You need to consider conflicts, economics, technology, health systems and other factors.
...

Not when 'proving' that your post wrt life expectancy 'not increasing that much' was simply wrong! The reasons don't matter - except in 'extreme' cases. They really only need to be considered when analysing/comparing the differences between expectancy and actuality!

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Clearly you have never heard of reversion to the mean, aka regression toward the mean.
The last century was one of turmoil. Up until Covid-19 the previous 50 years had done some rebalancing.
Covid-19 has disproportionally affected the overweight.

Life expectancy in populations over time can fluctuate.
You need to consider conflicts, economics, technology, health systems and other factors.
Ask yourself why the diet industry, the gym and other exercise industry is now worth billions.
It's simply because we are overeating with comparison to all the thousands of generations that preceded us.

Give up your addiction to food and eat less and you will be healthier.
What is it you don't understand about that?

More rubbish! how much less? Less to the point of becoming unhealthy? Not everybody is the same, what works for one, does not work for another, if it did some “diet expert” would of commercialised it and controlled the industry.

As for Life expectancy, I fully understood how it can change over time, it was you who flippantly dismissed it!