Intermittent fasting

[Mudball]

Back on the topic.
past 2 days have been skipping breakfast. I must say, the 16/8 IF seems do-able. Let’s see how far I can string it.

 

[Rooter]

Back on the topic.
past 2 days have been skipping breakfast. I must say, the 16/8 IF seems do-able. Let’s see how far I can string it.

My only concern with that is, if you miss a 300kcal breakfast, wait until 11AM to eat, by that point you are starving and eat a 450Kcal breakfast instead!

Something to watch at least...

 

[G1z1]

I did a 22 hour fasting for a few months last year, took 2 stone off and felt great. I would have my two hour eating window around 4pm to 6pm used to play a round of golf in morning then go to gym no problem. I found I had more energy but ended up going on holiday and coming off it and never got back on it. Think I’ll give it a go on Monday again, only takes me two three days to get into it then i just kind of don’t think about eating outside my window.

 

[Mudball]

My only concern with that is, if you miss a 300kcal breakfast, wait until 11AM to eat, by that point you are starving and eat a 450Kcal breakfast instead!

Something to watch at least...

Agree with your point

I spoke too soon… had to do the breakfast today, so ended up grazing from everyone’s plates ?‍

Overall still think IF is do-able. Will have a proper go next week

 

[3offTheTee]

Just re read the thread title and misread the ‘s’ for an ‘r’. Thought that would be a far better thread although like most threads on here could get messy!

 

[stefanovic]

More rubbish! how much less? Less to the point of becoming unhealthy? Not everybody is the same, what works for one, does not work for another, if it did some “diet expert” would of commercialised it and controlled the industry.

Don't you understand that the rubbish about diet and fitness we are being peddled is just plain wrong.
Dieting such as 5:2, Atkins, Cambridge or whatever cannot take weight off you because there is a tendency to just put it back on again.
You are more likely to GAIN weight.

Fitness plans, gym workouts, jogging or whatever do not take weight off you.
That is because you cannot burn off excess calories that way.
You can never do enough exercise over any time frame and it is likely to make you eat more later.

But one thing does work, and commercial interests don't want you to know it.
If calories in are greater than calories out you will have a tendency to gain weight.
If calories out are greater than calories in you have a tendency to lose weight, and you are naturally burning calories all the time.

So all you basically have to do is eat less until you start to lose weight, and keep it going.
It will also save you money on food and the gym membership.
You can check your BMI online. It needs to be in the range 19 - 24.
Mine is 21.5.
Please no more about BMI not being reliable as it is supported by the NHS.

 

[hovis]

My only concern with that is, if you miss a 300kcal breakfast, wait until 11AM to eat, by that point you are starving and eat a 450Kcal breakfast instead!

Something to watch at least...

300 calorie breakfast? Two slices of toast is 400. Average breakfast including drinks Is 700-900 calories.

 

[hovis]

Agree with your point

I spoke too soon… had to do the breakfast today, so ended up grazing from everyone’s plates ?‍

Overall still think IF is do-able. Will have a proper go next week

It's beneficial to break your fast with high protein options and end your eating window with a higher carb option

 

[hovis]

Don't you understand that the rubbish about diet and fitness we are being peddled is just plain wrong.
Dieting such as 5:2, Atkins, Cambridge or whatever cannot take weight off you because there is a tendency to just put it back on again.
You are more likely to GAIN weight.

Fitness plans, gym workouts, jogging or whatever do not take weight off you.
That is because you cannot burn off excess calories that way.
You can never do enough exercise over any time frame and it is likely to make you eat more later.

But one thing does work, and commercial interests don't want you to know it.
If calories in are greater than calories out you will have a tendency to gain weight.
If calories out are greater than calories in you have a tendency to lose weight, and you are naturally burning calories all the time.

So all you basically have to do is eat less until you start to lose weight, and keep it going.
It will also save you money on food and the gym membership.
You can check your BMI online. It needs to be in the range 19 - 24.
Mine is 21.5.
Please no more about BMI not being reliable as it is supported by the NHS.

I agree 100% on what you say about calories in calories out but everything else you've written is utter rubbish.
Weight training, running or any form of activity is fundamental to long term weight loss. If you are a postman maybe not so much. If you work at a desk then definitely. The average male only requires around 1600/1800 if sedentary. And a small woman is 1000/1400.That's not alot of food and a really though day if that's all your allowed to eat. Do some exercise and now your allowance is much higher and you can enjoy life and not hate your diet.
Please explain how you are more likely to gain weight on the diets you detailed.
You also said you cannot burn excess calories by exercising. Please also explain

 

[Deleted member 16999]

300 calorie breakfast? Two slices of toast is 400. Average breakfast including drinks Is 700-900 calories.

Are you sure on the toast? Hovis White, Medium Slice is 93 calories per slice and Wholemeal 88 calories per slice according to the packets.

 

[hovis]

Are you sure on the toast? Hovis White, Medium Slice is 93 calories per slice and Wholemeal 88 calories per slice according to the packets.

now add butter. A moderate amount is 100 calories per slice ?. My wife was amazed when I weighed her butter out the 140 cals per slice ?. That's if you have just butter.

Measure out 400 cals of strawberries instead and see how much food you get. Loooooooaaaaaaaaddddddddsss of strawberries for 400 cals and you'll be fuller for longer. Watermelon and most berry's are a good alternative too

 

[Deleted member 16999]

now add butter. A moderate amount is 100 calories per slice ?. My wife was amazed when I weighed her butter out the 140 cals per slice ?

Measure out 400 cals of strawberries instead and see how much food you get. Loooooooaaaaaaaaddddddddsss of strawberries for 400 cals and you'll be fuller for longer. Watermelon and most berry's are a good alternative too

You must put the butter on with a trowel??

Totally agree with the far better fruit option.??

 

[hovis]

You must put the butter on with a trowel??

Totally agree with the far better fruit option.??

If you're a sado like me then whey a slice of toast and then whey it after you have lightly buttered your toast. You'll be shocked how little butter you get for 100 cals

 

[hovis]

Back on the topic.
past 2 days have been skipping breakfast. I must say, the 16/8 IF seems do-able. Let’s see how far I can string it.

If you find yourself starving in between your window then sugar free jelly is a life saver. Don't eat too much or you'll spend the evening on the toilet

 

[Beedee]

If you're a sado like me then whey a slice of toast and then whey it after you have lightly buttered your toast. You'll be shocked how little butter you get for 100 cals

tbh I'm shocked how much butter you get for 100 calories. 100 calories in 3 pats. Per slice?

One of those pats is 2 slices of toast for me.

 

[Foxholer]

Don't you understand that the rubbish about diet and fitness we are being peddled is just plain wrong.
Dieting such as 5:2, Atkins, Cambridge or whatever cannot take weight off you because there is a tendency to just put it back on again.
You are more likely to GAIN weight.

Fitness plans, gym workouts, jogging or whatever do not take weight off you.
That is because you cannot burn off excess calories that way.
You can never do enough exercise over any time frame and it is likely to make you eat more later.

But one thing does work, and commercial interests don't want you to know it.
If calories in are greater than calories out you will have a tendency to gain weight.
If calories out are greater than calories in you have a tendency to lose weight, and you are naturally burning calories all the time.

So all you basically have to do is eat less until you start to lose weight, and keep it going.
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Italicised section excepted, everything else in the above is either misleading half-truths, or (the usual) utter twaddle!
Specifically....

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Dieting such as 5:2, Atkins, Cambridge or whatever cannot take weight off you because there is a tendency to just put it back on again.
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The bold bit is an an admission that the italicised bit is false!

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Fitness plans, gym workouts, jogging or whatever do not take weight off you.
That is because you cannot burn off excess calories that way.
You can never do enough exercise over any time frame...

Utter twaddle ...Of course you can. However, exercise also has a tendency to increase muscle and muscle is heavier than fat. The type of exercise used to lose weight needs to be 'weight losing' cf simply/solely 'fitness increasing'. Walking is better than jogging for this (and easier on joints too).

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You can check your BMI online. It needs to be in the range 19 - 24.
Mine is 21.5.
Please no more about BMI not being reliable as it is supported by the NHS.

Not 'needs to be', but 'should be'!
And while 'supported' by NHS, NHS documentation also publishes 'Limitations' of the metric! Specifically, BMI makes no distinction between muscle and fat. So a 16 stone seriously obese person and a 16 stonewell muscled person can have the same BMI!

 

[hovis]

tbh I'm shocked how much butter you get for 100 calories. 100 calories in 3 pats. Per slice?

One of those pats is 2 slices of toast for me.

I usually use one pat per slice however, when I'm using pats of butter it's in a hotel or restaurant where the bread is small. One pat of butter on a slice of worbortons is depressing ?

 

[Mudball]

It's beneficial to break your fast with high protein options and end your eating window with a higher carb option

Interesting .. had not seen this one yet.. something to consider. I have some protein meal replacements but was not considering using it since I need some sustenance.
I am WFH for another 3 months atleast. My physical exercise is going to be 30-60 mins of mix of cardio and weights five times a week. I need to figure out a way to get calorie deficient. Not easy.

 

[hovis]

Interesting .. had not seen this one yet.. something to consider. I have some protein meal replacements but was not considering using it since I need some sustenance.
I am WFH for another 3 months atleast. My physical exercise is going to be 30-60 mins of mix of cardio and weights five times a week. I need to figure out a way to get calorie deficient. Not easy.

Never drink calories. It's just a waste when you can be eating them. Calories from liquid don't give you a sense of fulfilment. However, some people find protein drinks to be very filling (not me personally)
What do you mean by "find a way to get calories deficient"? Finding time?

 

[Foxholer]

Interesting .. had not seen this one yet.. something to consider. I have some protein meal replacements but was not considering using it since I need some sustenance.
I am WFH for another 3 months atleast. My physical exercise is going to be 30-60 mins of mix of cardio and weights five times a week. I need to figure out a way to get calorie deficient. Not easy.

Brisk walking - or cycling (machine?) is a good way to burn calories without much effect on other areas. Swimming is possibly even better, but possibly not as convenient.