Initial handicap too low?

[garyinderry]

With the course cut to 5900 over winter there will a serious amount of driver wedge holes. It simply won't play like that at full length.

I find it incredible that a handicap would be allocated when the course Is in that shortened form.

 

[rosecott]

With the course cut to 5900 over winter there will a serious amount of driver wedge holes. It simply won't play like that at full length.

I find it incredible that a handicap would be allocated when the course Is in that shortened form.

There are plenty of courses around the 6000 yard mark and they will have a SSS appropriate to the difficulty or otherwise of the course.

 

[bignev]

I'm presently going through the 3 card thing after taking a year away from golf but don't really understand how they reach a number.

 

[rosecott]

I'm presently going through the 3 card thing after taking a year away from golf but don't really understand how they reach a number.

It's a pity you've gone beyond the 12-month point. If you had re-joined a club within the 12-month period, you would just take up where you left off with the same handicap. When you have submitted the required 3 cards, I would be surprised if the club did not allocate your old handicap unless you are physically less able than before. They must take your previous handicap into account. It would seem logical that there would be a fair chance of considering allocating your previous handicap after 13 months absence when it would be automatic after 11 months absence.

 

[rulefan]

I'm presently going through the 3 card thing after taking a year away from golf but don't really understand how they reach a number.

(a) If a handicap has been previously held, refer to Clause 26 (Regaining a Handicap).
Otherwise the initial handicap shall be allotted as in (b) below.
(b) The Handicap Committee shall
1. Adjust any score of more than double par at any hole to a score of double par (i.e. 6 on a Par 3, 8 on a Par 4 and 10 on a Par 5).
2. Add the nine-hole scores (if applicable) to make up 18-hole equivalents in chronological order. If a club has more than one Designated Nine-Hole Courses each pair of nine-hole scores must be returned over courses having the same Designated Nine-Hole SSSs for the gender of player concerned.
3. Calculate the Adjusted Gross Differential (‘AGD‘) scores from the three 18 hole (or 18-hole equivalent) scores; these scores being calculated by comparing the returns relative to the SSS’s of the courses/tees used: AGD = Adjusted Gross Score – SSS for the course/tees used Determine the Lowest Adjusted Gross Differential (‘LAGD‘) from the three Adjusted Gross Differentials
4. Reduce the resulting LAGD according to the formula;
Initial Handicap = (LAGD + (LAGD*0.13))/ 1.237 truncated to provide a whole number.

For example, a player with a Lowest Adjusted Gross Differential of 31 is allotted an initial handicap of 28 (which is recorded as an Exact Handicap of 28.0) as shown below:

Initial Handicap = (31 + (31*0.13))/1.237 = (31 + 4.03)/1.237
= (35.03/1.237)
= 28.31 truncated to 28 and recorded as an Exact Handicap of
28.0.
After these adjustments have been made the whole number Exact Handicap shall, subject to the provisions of Clauses 16.3(c) and 16.3(e), be allotted.

 

[lex!]

Handicap sec should let the software work it out and the Hcap sec should not intervene.

I have got you at 11

I was at a workshop once and some bloke piped up 'oh, I look at what the computer gives me and just take a couple of shots off it, as they are new' !

 

[Kellfire]

I did not see the card as another member was marking it.

You didn't see the card on which a handicapping round was being marked?

Eh?

 

[simonm8]

See im in the same boat, Use game golf to track all my rounds and stats according to that over 55 rounds I should be 17.8
Joined clubs submitted 3 cards as below
Par 71 - SSS 70

86 - 7 pars, 7 Bogeys, 4 DBL Bogeys
87 - 1 Birdie, 3 Pars, 11 Bogeys, 3 DBL Bogeys
93 - 2 Pars, 9 Bogeys, 5 DBL Bogeys, 1 TRP Bogey


Got allocated 13..

 

[lex!]

See im in the same boat, Use game golf to track all my rounds and stats according to that over 55 rounds I should be 17.8
Joined clubs submitted 3 cards as below
Par 71 - SSS 70

86 - 7 pars, 7 Bogeys, 4 DBL Bogeys
87 - 1 Birdie, 3 Pars, 11 Bogeys, 3 DBL Bogeys
93 - 2 Pars, 9 Bogeys, 5 DBL Bogeys, 1 TRP Bogey


Got allocated 13..

I calculate yours at 15. That 86 as a good round. Might be worth talking to your Handicap Secretary if you think it's unfair and you wont be able to play to it. All initial allocations can be monitored and reviewed.

 

[jim8flog]

See im in the same boat, Use game golf to track all my rounds and stats according to that over 55 rounds I should be 17.8
Joined clubs submitted 3 cards as below
Par 71 - SSS 70

86 - 7 pars, 7 Bogeys, 4 DBL Bogeys
87 - 1 Birdie, 3 Pars, 11 Bogeys, 3 DBL Bogeys
93 - 2 Pars, 9 Bogeys, 5 DBL Bogeys, 1 TRP Bogey


Got allocated 13..

The best round is used for handicap purposes (your potential is what is wanted not your average)

as a very rough guide

Use the 86
which is 15 over par multiply by .9 = 13.5 then round down to the nearest whole number = 13.

Which is what you were allocated.

 

[simonm8]

The best round is used for handicap purposes (your potential is what is wanted not your average)

as a very rough guide

Use the 86
which is 15 over par multiply by .9 = 13.5 then round down to the nearest whole number = 13.

Which is what you were allocated.

Oh right ok that makes sense now, thanks