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Have you found those councils for us yet ?
MegaSteve
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Tashyboy
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dear ladies and gentlemen, this was my first topic as a new member on this site and my reasons for asking the question re immigration good or bad is because I believe it will be the major talking point re the next election. I honestly believe that immigration can and does enhance this country and if forecasts are to be believed we will be major industrial power in Europe by 2030 (we will see). In that calculation immigration will play a major part.
however we have Eastern Europeans selling big issue in mansfield! what's that all about! even people who are living on the streets have there sources of income taken away by immigrants.
My wife was threatened with discrimination by an English guy (who she set on as a care assistant in her hospital) because she would not employ his Thai wife. My wife explained that as soon as she learned English as she could not speak two words of English, she would give her another interview. My wife was livid. She has too many friends of different nationalities (as you would working in an hospital) to mention, and yet she was threatened with discrimination. After an evening of ranting and raving my wife said would you want someone to look after your mum or dad if they cannot understand the basics of English and hospital terminology.
this brings me to another point! you have someone who is prepared to work but cannot speak English! and someone who speaks English but is not prepared to work. Who do you give the job to. It's a no brainier. Why do people not want to work, because benefits more than get them by.
I would like to thank everyone who has contributed to this topic and would be most grateful if the Mods could lock this post as it seems to of run its course..
Happy new year to everyone, mr and Missis tash will be spending there's in Amsterdam.
however we have Eastern Europeans selling big issue in mansfield! what's that all about! even people who are living on the streets have there sources of income taken away by immigrants.
My wife was threatened with discrimination by an English guy (who she set on as a care assistant in her hospital) because she would not employ his Thai wife. My wife explained that as soon as she learned English as she could not speak two words of English, she would give her another interview. My wife was livid. She has too many friends of different nationalities (as you would working in an hospital) to mention, and yet she was threatened with discrimination. After an evening of ranting and raving my wife said would you want someone to look after your mum or dad if they cannot understand the basics of English and hospital terminology.
this brings me to another point! you have someone who is prepared to work but cannot speak English! and someone who speaks English but is not prepared to work. Who do you give the job to. It's a no brainier. Why do people not want to work, because benefits more than get them by.
I would like to thank everyone who has contributed to this topic and would be most grateful if the Mods could lock this post as it seems to of run its course..
Happy new year to everyone, mr and Missis tash will be spending there's in Amsterdam.
stevie_r
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Daft post. I wasn't around for the battle of Trafalgar but I know it happened.
I've given you examples, hard facts, and all you've come back with is an opinion. I've suggested you take on board what is in the Oxford English and Wiki, and you've chosen to fly in the face of those tomes. Are you ever wrong?
As for the Irish not assimilating; well, that's your opinion. There's an area of Middlesbrough, once known locally as little Ireland. My mother's family, a typically large Irish family immgrated to it in the 30's. There's Byrne's, Burns, Burn, O'Dwyers, Walls (and that's just family) and God alone knows how many other Irish names around there. I grew up there, went to school there, worked there... there's the odd few that talk of the old country - known locally, jokingly, as plastic Paddy's. It is as English an area as you can get - not even a Paddy's social club in sight. I guess that dispels another of your myths, i.e. that not many of the Irish would assimilate...
"Just the Asians..." Polish road signs in the Vale of Evesham... Those in Evesham were removed after complaints by locals that they were distracting and confusing... more hard evidence for you to ignore or dismiss.
Anyway, back to my original response. Our infrastructure can't cope. Class sizes are pushing 40 in some secondary schools, and a number of councils have asked for the legal limit of 30 in primary schools be changed... we're full.
Beezerk
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Enjoy mate, I was there for my 40th/ New Year in 2011, we had a superb time. Make sure you're in Dam Square at 12, take some fireworks and be prepared for the madness :thup:
MegaSteve
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Its as simple as that is it? You weren't there so you googled it for the correct answer...
stevie_r
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Never went near google as there was no need, a basic grasp of British history is sufficient. Significant (all things being relative) immigration from the Caribbean started in the 50's.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Don't know whether it's immigration related, but from what I saw on TV news the big stores in London find overseas customers a good thing judging by the fact that almost everyone at the front of the queues piling into Harrods and Selfridges etc seemed to be of a Far Eastern background. So bring em in and on the stores might say.
Slime
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If they are Asians they surely can't be English. Wouldn't that make them Europeans ........................ as that's the continent that England is in
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Slime.
doublebogey7
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Where do you get your information from Leicester's first and only elected Mayor is Peter Soulsby a white Anglo Saxon.
MegaSteve
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I can remember London in the '50s/60s and whilst seeing a non-white was not unheard of it was 'quite' uncommon [as you note all things being relative] until the mid 60's...
Visiting some nearby parts, these days, it could be said that seeing a 'white face' as being uncommon...
History changes.... Talking to someone recently about my memories of the Southall riots during the conversation he told me that they are now known there as the Southall 'happenings'....
stevie_r
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Then I doubt you frequented the areas where the influx of immigrants at the time were settled.
Your second point - what on earth is it?
SocketRocket
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SocketRocket
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You will find most of those were Chinese who come over for the sales. If you visit any of the large retail outlet villages like 'Bicester' you will find it full of Chinese shoppers.
stevie_r
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Pis there anything you don't know? It's incredible :thup:
SocketRocket
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I have you weighed up if that helps :thup:
stevie_r
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Well I've put on a couple of pound over Xmas but I'll soon get that off.
Doon frae Troon
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I suppose that is better than 'troubles'.
I always find that word very strange in the circumstances.
What next 'The German hissy fit'
JAS964
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in answer to the original question - Is immigration good or bad?
It depends!!
It depends on the numbers involved
It depends on who benefits
It depends on the amount of actual multicultural integration that happens.
Very relevant question in relation to the next election because each of the parties should be able to tell you about how their immigration policy is going to answer to the above.
My personal view is that immigration is CURRENTLY bad. Why?? Because 1) There seems to be no grip whatsoever on the numbers (not the bottom line number but the number that would be of optimum economic benefit for the WHOLE country) 2) Immigration is currently driven by criminal gangs or multinational companies (the first illegal the 2nd not much better) whose purpose is to body shop immigrants in to make big profits from them (do any of them pay Corporation tax on the profits they make from such body shopping?? if no then where is the benefit to the country??). 3) Putting aside the economic issues, there isn't the level of genuine multicultural integration that there should be and both the immigrant communities AND the native population are guilty in that respect.
It depends!!
It depends on the numbers involved
It depends on who benefits
It depends on the amount of actual multicultural integration that happens.
Very relevant question in relation to the next election because each of the parties should be able to tell you about how their immigration policy is going to answer to the above.
My personal view is that immigration is CURRENTLY bad. Why?? Because 1) There seems to be no grip whatsoever on the numbers (not the bottom line number but the number that would be of optimum economic benefit for the WHOLE country) 2) Immigration is currently driven by criminal gangs or multinational companies (the first illegal the 2nd not much better) whose purpose is to body shop immigrants in to make big profits from them (do any of them pay Corporation tax on the profits they make from such body shopping?? if no then where is the benefit to the country??). 3) Putting aside the economic issues, there isn't the level of genuine multicultural integration that there should be and both the immigrant communities AND the native population are guilty in that respect.
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