Immigration good or bad

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It is wrong but that's what is happening and there are people willing to do the work
 
MegaSteve said:
Have you tried to?

I am 'lucky' as I have never had to and I certainly wouldn't wish to try...
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No but I know people that do - they buy the essentials in regards food and rent etc but go without all the luxuries - Sky Telly etc.
 
Migration into the country has rocketed since the mid 1990s and it has been completely uncontrolled. Net migration was -11k in 1992, in 2010 it was 227k! Some will say that's a positive, oh look how popular we are... We've seen massive demographic changes across the country but especially the South East. And immigrants, especially from the developing world, have more children which is why the population is growing so rapidly. You can't just think about the situation now, what will it be like in 10,20,30 years time? Where's the money going to come from to educate and house all these people, we're already a trillion quid in debt. Immigration has had plenty of benefits no doubt but the sheer scale of it over the last 20 years has just been ridiculous. The trouble with this subject is you always get the oddballs coming out of the woodwork throwing about the racist tag, daily mail this xenophobia that, which deters people from having proper debates about it.
 
I'm backing out of this thread very quietly

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Durango said:
Migration into the country has rocketed since the mid 1990s and it has been completely uncontrolled. Net migration was -11k in 1992, in 2010 it was 227k! Some will say that's a positive, oh look how popular we are... We've seen massive demographic changes across the country but especially the South East. And immigrants, especially from the developing world, have more children which is why the population is growing so rapidly. You can't just think about the situation now, what will it be like in 10,20,30 years time? Where's the money going to come from to educate and house all these people, we're already a trillion quid in debt. Immigration has had plenty of benefits no doubt but the sheer scale of it over the last 20 years has just been ridiculous. The trouble with this subject is you always get the oddballs coming out of the woodwork throwing about the racist tag, daily mail this xenophobia that, which deters people from having proper debates about it.
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As stated here many times: Anyone who sees mass immigration as a problem gets cited as a Racist and a Daily Mail reader. Such put downs are immature and typical of the way Socialists discuss matters.
 
I've not been near the forum since mid morning, too busy spending a great afternoon with family and eating superbly followed by an evening at my neighbours for drinks, more food and some good banter.

Bet it was a lot more fun than being on a golf forum moaning about immigration and benefits. Get a life FGS ;)
 
stevie_r said:
I've not been near the forum since mid morning, too busy spending a great afternoon with family and eating superbly followed by an evening at my neighbours for drinks, more food and some good banter.

Bet it was a lot more fun than being on a golf forum moaning about immigration and benefits. Get a life FGS ;)
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Maybe you could get back to yours and leave others to theirs. FGS.
 
SocketRocket said:
So you think there is a shortage of available labour for small business? Really!
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No, ok I don't think there is a shortage of available labour, but with a workforce that is mobile, it is easier to find the right mix of skills, experience and motivation at an affordable price. This helps businesses prosper.

To the point of immigration controls, I believe that a 'market' exists, with immigration flows reacting to changes in the market. During the property boom, there was huge net immigration into Ireland, with labour from Central and Eastern Europeans working in the industry. As the work dried up, a large portion of these moved on. Many of them to Scandinavia. I believe that currently there is an outflow of young Irish, heading to their traditional lands of opportunity, the USA, Canada and Australia.

As mentioned in some previous posts, I am more concerned about how the welfare system works and can impact the economy, in a broader sense, not just around immigrants.
 
So why is everything so expensive in London.
Surely with population mass it should be cheaper..........that's the bit I don't understand.

So Imurg... I would like you to explain it to me!
 
Doon frae Troon said:
So why is everything so expensive in London.
Surely with population mass it should be cheaper..........that's the bit I don't understand.

So Imurg... I would like you to explain it to me!
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I refer the Honourable Gentleman to my previous statement.......

"Why?

No idea - ask an Economist."
 
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