"I'm on the committee..."

[Retread61]

Actually must disagree with that statement

Just staying ahead of the group can create slow play

Im sorry Phil but I dont understand and Im happy to be wrong, but if you are ahead of the following group and not slowing them down how can you be actually causing slow play. Its not possible is it??

 

[Slab]

In our case it's not points it's players, particular fourball who play slowly, hold everyone up & let nobody through.

It'd be great if your club is already so far down the line in solving pace issues but maybe I should expand on earlier post with an example

If the cause of the bottleneck is a bunker with insufficient or compacted sand, are your committee volunteers even looking for that as the cause or are they just looking at players (some taking 2 shots to get out or blading it out into more trouble, others just getting it out but nowhere near the hole, and with the associated added time to play that hole) or would they just see this 'slow pace' & then tell them to let the next group through?

And in the above scenario a hotline to the green-keeper would be more useful than a hotline to a ranger

This example is one of dozens that dictate the pace for the players

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Another thread where Dufferman is caught up in a slow play situation. There's a pattern here perhaps?

As we all know.....there is no such thing as a slow golfer.

 

[Fyldewhite]

Im sorry Phil but I dont understand and Im happy to be wrong, but if you are ahead of the following group and not slowing them down how can you be actually causing slow play. Its not possible is it??

I agree with Phil. I see what you are saying but if you have (say) half a hole between you and the group behind that's great and yes you are not slowing anyone down. It only takes one lost ball though and suddenly the group behind, and quite probably the group behind them etc etc grind to a halt. If you concentrate on keeping up with the group in front then any delays are obviously not eradicated but are at least minimised.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Sounds like a complete tool.
There's a good chance he's under the thumb at home.

 

[ManinBlack]

It'd be great if your club is already so far down the line in solving pace issues but maybe I should expand on earlier post with an example

If the cause of the bottleneck is a bunker with insufficient or compacted sand, are your committee volunteers even looking for that as the cause or are they just looking at players (some taking 2 shots to get out or blading it out into more trouble, others just getting it out but nowhere near the hole, and with the associated added time to play that hole) or would they just see this 'slow pace' & then tell them to let the next group through?

And in the above scenario a hotline to the green-keeper would be more useful than a hotline to a ranger

This example is one of dozens that dictate the pace for the players

To be honest, I don't think this is ever the cause, it's players who watch too much golf on television.

 

[Retread61]

I agree with Phil. I see what you are saying but if you have (say) half a hole between you and the group behind that's great and yes you are not slowing anyone down. It only takes one lost ball though and suddenly the group behind, and quite probably the group behind them etc etc grind to a halt. If you concentrate on keeping up with the group in front then any delays are obviously not eradicated but are at least minimised.

I think I didnt make my point clear earlier, I meant its not just our duty to keep up with those ahead but to keep ahead of those behind. My bad for not describing accurately!

 

[Slab]

To be honest, I don't think this is ever the cause, it's players who watch too much golf on television.

Then very jealous of your course & the way its managed

 

[mikepops]

The pro came out on the buggy when we were on the 6th fairway to let everyone know the course was playing slow. We told him what had happened, he told us to report it to the manager, which we have done. I don't like being a tell-tale, but when the pro suggests it I think there must be reason e.g. the guy is a trouble maker or has a history of being holy-ier than thou. Hopefully we'll see some action taken. I understand the group in front who were also spoken to have done the same.

Good on you for reporting him - be interesting to know if there is any follow up from the manager.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

To be honest, I don't think this is ever the cause, it's players who watch too much golf on television.

+1!

Plumbobbing (or Aimpoint)) putts that are for a six or seven, long, elaborate pre-shot routines, prolonged consideration of club selection (and still come up short) .

It all adds up but I realise that on a forum such as this I am in the minority as it appears that most consider 4.5 hour rounds to be "snappy".

 

[el marko]

+1!

Plumbobbing (or Aimpoint)) putts that are for a six or seven, long, elaborate pre-shot routines, prolonged consideration of club selection (and still come up short) .

It all adds up but I realise that on a forum such as this I am in the minority as it appears that most consider 4.5 hour rounds to be "snappy".

4 and half hours on a busy course of about 6500 yards is very reasonable tbh.

As to the committee guy, i would have laughed in his face when he said that. He thinks he has some authority, bless him.

 

[CMAC]

The pro came out on the buggy when we were on the 6th fairway to let everyone know the course was playing slow. We told him what had happened, he told us to report it to the manager, which we have done. I don't like being a tell-tale, but when the pro suggests it I think there must be reason e.g. the guy is a trouble maker or has a history of being holy-ier than thou. Hopefully we'll see some action taken. I understand the group in front who were also spoken to have done the same.

yes, like passing the buck

 

[North Mimms]

"I'm on the committee" On a par with "Do you know who I am?" Inviting a sarcastic response.

"ask Matron and she'll tell you" ??

 

[patricks148]

every time i see this tread title it reminds me of the Wheel tappers and Shunters social club..

Order, order.

 

[fundy]

4 and half hours on a busy course of about 6500 yards is very reasonable tbh.

As to the committee guy, i would have laughed in his face when he said that. He thinks he has some authority, bless him.

Says who? Our course is 6600 yards and 4 and 1/2 hrs is painfully slow, absolutely no need for a round to take that long. Its the acceptance by many that it is fine that is a massive part of the problem imo

 

[ger147]

I think I didnt make my point clear earlier, I meant its not just our duty to keep up with those ahead but to keep ahead of those behind. My bad for not describing accurately!

You can't play faster than the group in front unless they let you play through or you fire balls at them while still in range, and if they don't let you through and the course is jam packed ahead then what you suggest is impossible.

Your group stuck behind several slower groups may well be the fastest if the course was clear. There is no way of knowing that the group behind who catches you up would be faster.

 

[ger147]

4 and half hours on a busy course of about 6500 yards is very reasonable tbh.

As to the committee guy, i would have laughed in his face when he said that. He thinks he has some authority, bless him.

3 ball medal play, stroke play (not Stableford), full course and anything over 4 hours round our 6,500 yard course is VERY slow.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

4 and half hours on a busy course of about 6500 yards is very reasonable tbh.

As to the committee guy, i would have laughed in his face when he said that. He thinks he has some authority, bless him.

As I said I am in the minority, although judging by some of the subsequent comments perhaps not that small a minority.

IMO 4.5 hours is at least 30 minutes too long.

However, as previously stated, the committee man's behaviour was both crass and an embarrassment to himself.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Says who? Our course is 6600 yards and 4 and 1/2 hrs is painfully slow, absolutely no need for a round to take that long. Its the acceptance by many that it is fine that is a massive part of the problem imo

100% agree!

 

[patricks148]

Says who? Our course is 6600 yards and 4 and 1/2 hrs is painfully slow, absolutely no need for a round to take that long. Its the acceptance by many that it is fine that is a massive part of the problem imo

100% agree, two rounds at the weekend both under 3.5 hours with all the times in front full. on Sat we even had one of the drinking clubs playing a match against another lot 20 guys on the Kummel.

acceptance of a slow round being the norm is just making it worse.