Bunkermagnet
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If so many wax lyrical how forged clubs give better feel, why then do most people play cast wedges and putters?
If it's all about "feel"
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Because forgiveness is more than likely more important to most Amatuer club golfers and the more forgiving clubs normally are cast.
SugarPenguin
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what he said and they are cheaper
Tiger
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I've gone from cast AP1 and Vokey wedges to forged JPX 850 and T5 wedges. My mizuno wedges cost the same as my Vokeys. My irons came with free shaft and grip upgrades but were probably a fraction more expensive than the equivalent set of AP1s today.
I love my forged clubs and can't see myself ever going back to cast. Biggest difference is consistent distances on my wedges and irons and I love the sound (feel) of them as well.
When I went for my fitting I only went for irons. Then I tried the wedges and there was no way I could contemplate keeping the Vokeys after that. So in short I love forged clubs and can't understand why people would play cast wedges with forged irons but if it works for them who am I to argue. They'd probably whoop my assignment on a golf course😨😉
I love my forged clubs and can't see myself ever going back to cast. Biggest difference is consistent distances on my wedges and irons and I love the sound (feel) of them as well.
When I went for my fitting I only went for irons. Then I tried the wedges and there was no way I could contemplate keeping the Vokeys after that. So in short I love forged clubs and can't understand why people would play cast wedges with forged irons but if it works for them who am I to argue. They'd probably whoop my assignment on a golf course😨😉
Tiger
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Yes but you'd think if they want forgiveness they'd have cast irons!
Oddsocks
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Lots of forged wedges on the market that are cheaper than cast vokeys or pings
Lots of cast putters that are high end too
Bunkermagnet
Journeyman Pro
There you go then, it's not about actual feel but how they sound. I don't belive anyone can actualy "feel" a difference of hitting a golf ball with a rubber grip on 3.5 ft of metal tubing with a lump of metal on the end. It 's down to the sound
Capella
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It would be really interesting to have a blind test on this. If you make a club that looks the same, once in a cast version and in a forged one, would people really be able to tell the difference when they hit it.
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There you go then, it's not about actual feel but how they sound. I don't belive anyone can actualy "feel" a difference of hitting a golf ball with a rubber grip on 3.5 ft of metal tubing with a lump of metal on the end. It 's down to the sound
I could feel the difference between hitting a ball with a forged iron and cast iron - feels purer
I've just bought mizuno cast. Who'd have thought it.
palindromicbob
Tour Winner
The only forged club in my bag is the putter.
One Planer
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My Cleveland irons are forged.
My Cleveland wedges are cast.
Difference in feel is minimal.
My Cleveland wedges are cast.
Difference in feel is minimal.
Tiger
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It's not so much the feel/sound it's more distance control and feedback. On my cast clubs all strikes sounded similar. With the forged I know when I've hit a pure shot and when I haven't. In terms of distance my irons and wedges go consistent distances now. With cast they didn't. The reason for that is that when they pour the hot metal into the mould you can get trapped air bubbles which affects the distance. In my old set the biggest culprits were the PW, 8 iron and 6 iron.
Maninblack4612
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There you go then, it's not about actual feel but how they sound. I don't belive anyone can actualy "feel" a difference of hitting a golf ball with a rubber grip on 3.5 ft of metal tubing with a lump of metal on the end. It 's down to the sound
Me too and anyway by the time you've felt the "feel" the ball has gone. I use Vokey wedges. Although they are cast, they are cast from softer metal than the other irons so the difference in "feel", if it exists, will be minimum.
bluewolf
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It's an argument I've been making for a while. "Feel" is just our brains way of interpreting the sound of the ball off the clubface.There you go then, it's not about actual feel but how they sound. I don't belive anyone can actualy "feel" a difference of hitting a golf ball with a rubber grip on 3.5 ft of metal tubing with a lump of metal on the end. It 's down to the sound
HankMarvin
Tour Rookie
depends on how good a player you are, better golfers who can play the game will know the difference but your average club handicap guy/girl wouldn't know. But I wouldn't expect them to TBH
MashieNiblick
Tour Winner
Yes I've also heard this but I am not entirely convinced. Suggests that deaf people cannot experience or differentiate "feel" (I'm partially deaf and suffer tinnitus). Can that be true?
Or that you won't experience "feel" if you are hitting when a train goes past or a jet goes over head.
I can see that sound and feel are related in that they result from the way the club head vibrates but sound waves are detected through the ear and vibration (feel) through the grip. Sound might therefore demonstrate or evidence differences in vibration which in turn suggests there may be a difference in "feel", but that to me it doesn't mean that feel is simply an interpretation of the sound.
My understanding is that sound influences what we think we "feel" in the same way that colour or smell might influence taste but "feel" per see is the vibration through the club.
Incidentally although I use and love forged clubs I don't really understand why they feel different as the shaft and grip must have a huge modifying effect on vibrations from the head. Has this ever been tested with scientific instruments?
Maybe that suggests that what we "feel" is pretty standard and differences are indeed down to the sound. I don't know.
I think some tests have been done with players hitting identical cast and forged clubs and the results were inconclusive.
Interesting topic.
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HomerJSimpson
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Feel is unique. Can't be made so I don't think it makes any difference. I've used blades and big chunky Pings and both gave me "feel". Same with putters. I've milled faces (my odyssey #9) but also use a Ping Anser with a TR face. Both feel great
