I played today and..(Rolling) -originally created by JohnnyDee

[Orikoru]

If I did all that when I played I think my head would explode.
I never take a card out for match play.
I’ll know the shots given or received before we go out and apply them on each tee as needed.

Do you think you might be putting too much pressure on yourself to score well?

Do you judge if you liked a new course on how well you played on it?

Do you get enjoyment by seeing others playing well?

Writing things down calms my mind rather than the opposite. I don't know how to describe why. Maybe it's like a mild autism thing, I don't know. I like writing the scores down. It means I don't have to remember the score, just a quick glance at the scorecard. I don't have to remember which stroke index each hole is to determine whether it's a shot hole or not - just glance at the scorecard and it's all there. Keeps my brain free to just focus on my next shot, I guess.

I want to play well and then the score should take care of itself. I don't see it as pressure, I just see it as natural as a competitive person. I love the line in Moneyball where Brad Pitt's character says "I hate losing even more than I want to win." That is me all over. When I played tennis, I hated losing. When I played football, I hated losing. Golf is the same - even on my own, playing terribly feels like losing and I hate it.

It's not 100% linked to score, as my handicap came down a lot last year, so I have had to get used to the days where I feel like I've played well but only managed 30 points. That's fine if I feel like I played well, then it's ok.

Yes, the way I played on the day has a huge impact on whether I liked a new course or not. I can't help that.

If it's my mate Ben and he's played better than me, then no, I feel jealous and annoyed that I lost. If it's my wife though, absolutely, as I don't see her as a rival and her playing well makes me happy.

 

[Orikoru]

I have so many mor questions that these.. With all that info to input in different location between shots i'd confuse myself and struggle to just focus on playing, but then i'm a very simple man

It literally takes 3 seconds in the app while walking off the green. Here's a screenshot, all you click for that is the two plus symbols for score and putts, and the circle for hitting the fairway. It works out the green in reg automatically from the number of shots and putts.

 

[Lucifer MorningStar]

It literally takes 3 seconds in the app while walking off the green. Here's a screenshot, all you click for that is the two plus symbols for score and putts, and the circle for hitting the fairway. It works out the green in reg automatically from the number of shots and putts.

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I absolutely get it from a stats tracking point of view I track my own, but I don't understand why you'd use it during matchplay as well as using a scorecard. You've admitted yourself there will be gimmes etc and you're giving yourself a 4 foot putt. The stats simply can't be accurate in a matchplay situation as you could have missed some of those 4 footers, holes sometimes get conceded before you've even got to the green etc. Just can't get my head around tracking strokeplay scores for Stats tracking in a format where you don't hole every putt, it's simply not accurate and you're potentially skewing the numbers.

Like I said before each to his own but this one I can't see as being beneficial myself.

 

[irip]

Writing things down calms my mind rather than the opposite. I don't know how to describe why. Maybe it's like a mild autism thing, I don't know. I like writing the scores down. It means I don't have to remember the score, just a quick glance at the scorecard. I don't have to remember which stroke index each hole is to determine whether it's a shot hole or not - just glance at the scorecard and it's all there. Keeps my brain free to just focus on my next shot, I guess.

I want to play well and then the score should take care of itself. I don't see it as pressure, I just see it as natural as a competitive person. I love the line in Moneyball where Brad Pitt's character says "I hate losing even more than I want to win." That is me all over. When I played tennis, I hated losing. When I played football, I hated losing. Golf is the same - even on my own, playing terribly feels like losing and I hate it.

It's not 100% linked to score, as my handicap came down a lot last year, so I have had to get used to the days where I feel like I've played well but only managed 30 points. That's fine if I feel like I played well, then it's ok.

Yes, the way I played on the day has a huge impact on whether I liked a new course or not. I can't help that.

If it's my mate Ben and he's played better than me, then no, I feel jealous and annoyed that I lost. If it's my wife though, absolutely, as I don't see her as a rival and her playing well makes me happy.

That’s almost totally the opposite to me .
Neither is right or wrong and I’m sure the way I approach the game would bewilder you as much as yours does to me.

The only comparison is I felt the same when I played other sports as you do.

 

[Orikoru]

I absolutely get it from a stats tracking point of view I track my own, but I don't understand why you'd use it during matchplay as well as using a scorecard. You've admitted yourself there will be gimmes etc and you're giving yourself a 4 foot putt. The stats simply can't be accurate in a matchplay situation as you could have missed some of those 4 footers, holes sometimes get conceded before you've even got to the green etc. Just can't get my head around tracking strokeplay scores for Stats tracking in a format where you don't hole every putt, it's simply not accurate and you're potentially skewing the numbers.

Like I said before each to his own but this one I can't see as being beneficial myself.

Because I track my stats for every round? Why would it be different in matchplay? That's still a round isn't it? I'm confused as to why you wouldn't do that? At worst the score is only variable by 1 or 2 shots really. The fairways and greens in reg are all accurate, and most of the gimmes at my place are only inside a foot so very unlikely I miss those. All our greens are on slopes so nobody is giving two-footers or more - unless, as I mentioned, it's two putts for the win. I'd rather have every round recorded than write some off just because it might be variable by one or two putts.

That’s almost totally the opposite to me .
Neither is right or wrong and I’m sure the way I approach the game would bewilder you as much as yours does to me.

The only comparison is I felt the same when I played other sports as you do.

Yeah.. it's just one of my traits I guess. I have an Excel document in which I've input all my home club scores going back to 2017, including those fairways and greens % and number of putts etc. I have other Excel documents detailing the following:

• one documenting all the clubs I've had in my bag and handicap over time
• one documenting my 1v1 matchplay record against each of my mates
• one documenting who has won all of our 'majors', which are the yearly birthday rounds and golf trips
• one documenting handicaps for all my mates who attend these golf days but don't have official handicaps
• my own version of the My Golf Spy ball tests where I've just copied the relevant data to me

Why do I do all of this? I have no idea, I just like doing it.

 

[clubchamp98]

Thrown out for playing an extra ball as a single in practice.. Sounds like a fun place
Genuinely can't see how that is different from a 2 ball playing, same number of balls and pitchmarks. As long as you repair it and don't hold up play I can't see an issue, seems extremely archaic and absolutely something I would push the boundary on and test.

IF that's what's fun for you and only way you can play it then fair play, was just trying to give other ideas of making it fun and more beneficial to your practice. Personally I don't care what the score is if I'm just practicing as the goal is to improve the specific thing I'm working on not the score. But we're all different and that is what makes it interesting.

My thoughts exactly the only one who would know is yourself or maybe if another member saw you and reported you for it. That then makes them an incredibly sad individual and does nobody any good .

We have excellent practice facilities that’s where your iron play should be practiced.
I agree it’s old fashioned but there are reasons.

Pitch marks it’s hard enough to get members to do one never mind two.

 

[Neilds]

Because I track my stats for every round? Why would it be different in matchplay? That's still a round isn't it? I'm confused as to why you wouldn't do that? At worst the score is only variable by 1 or 2 shots really. The fairways and greens in reg are all accurate, and most of the gimmes at my place are only inside a foot so very unlikely I miss those. All our greens are on slopes so nobody is giving two-footers or more - unless, as I mentioned, it's two putts for the win. I'd rather have every round recorded than write some off just because it might be variable by one or two putts.



Yeah.. it's just one of my traits I guess. I have an Excel document in which I've input all my home club scores going back to 2017, including those fairways and greens % and number of putts etc. I have other Excel documents detailing the following:

• one documenting all the clubs I've had in my bag and handicap over time
• one documenting my 1v1 matchplay record against each of my mates
• one documenting who has won all of our 'majors', which are the yearly birthday rounds and golf trips
• one documenting handicaps for all my mates who attend these golf days but don't have official handicaps
• my own version of the My Golf Spy ball tests where I've just copied the relevant data to me

Why do I do all of this? I have no idea, I just like doing it.

As I alluded to before, is all this actually helping your golf?
You have been on here many times and stated that you are struggling with various aspects of your games - overswing, short game, etc and I am suggesting that you are suffering from over analysis and too many thoughts instead of just playing golf. Yes, you like to record stats but I like cakes and biscuits but it doesn't mean it is the right thing to do.
Maybe just try and ditch the stats and analysis and just swing the club and hit the ball?

 

[irip]

Because I track my stats for every round? Why would it be different in matchplay? That's still a round isn't it? I'm confused as to why you wouldn't do that? At worst the score is only variable by 1 or 2 shots really. The fairways and greens in reg are all accurate, and most of the gimmes at my place are only inside a foot so very unlikely I miss those. All our greens are on slopes so nobody is giving two-footers or more - unless, as I mentioned, it's two putts for the win. I'd rather have every round recorded than write some off just because it might be variable by one or two putts.



Yeah.. it's just one of my traits I guess. I have an Excel document in which I've input all my home club scores going back to 2017, including those fairways and greens % and number of putts etc. I have other Excel documents detailing the following:

• one documenting all the clubs I've had in my bag and handicap over time
• one documenting my 1v1 matchplay record against each of my mates
• one documenting who has won all of our 'majors', which are the yearly birthday rounds and golf trips
• one documenting handicaps for all my mates who attend these golf days but don't have official handicaps
• my own version of the My Golf Spy ball tests where I've just copied the relevant data to me

Why do I do all of this? I have no idea, I just like doing it.

If you enjoy it then great.

For me it’s a chance to get away from the pressures of real life and adding all that would add pressure for me.

Also it’s me against the course in my world on that day and I hope all my playing partners enjoy it and play well.

I would rather play well and lose than play rubbish and win.

 

[Orikoru]

As I alluded to before, is all this actually helping your golf?
You have been on here many times and stated that you are struggling with various aspects of your games - overswing, short game, etc and I am suggesting that you are suffering from over analysis and too many thoughts instead of just playing golf. Yes, you like to record stats but I like cakes and biscuits but it doesn't mean it is the right thing to do.
Maybe just try and ditch the stats and analysis and just swing the club and hit the ball?

I don't know? As I said, I just enjoy documenting stuff so no reason to stop. In fact, having blanks in the data would probably make me anxious.

I just like to overshare everything and occasionally catastrophise until the next decent round resets my brain. I had an overswing yes, but then I fixed it and have driven well for the last year. Now my chipping is the worst part of my game - discussing it on here is great to get my thoughts out, get the thoughts of others bounced back it me, and I find it helps by giving me new perspectives and things to try. You can call it over-analysis, but that is just my brain, I think I need something to obsess over to keep the cogs ticking, and golf is a perfect receptacle for that.

 

[Lucifer MorningStar]

Because I track my stats for every round? Why would it be different in matchplay? That's still a round isn't it? I'm confused as to why you wouldn't do that? At worst the score is only variable by 1 or 2 shots really. The fairways and greens in reg are all accurate, and most of the gimmes at my place are only inside a foot so very unlikely I miss those. All our greens are on slopes so nobody is giving two-footers or more - unless, as I mentioned, it's two putts for the win. I'd rather have every round recorded than write some off just because it might be variable by one or two putts.



Yeah.. it's just one of my traits I guess. I have an Excel document in which I've input all my home club scores going back to 2017, including those fairways and greens % and number of putts etc. I have other Excel documents detailing the following:

• one documenting all the clubs I've had in my bag and handicap over time
• one documenting my 1v1 matchplay record against each of my mates
• one documenting who has won all of our 'majors', which are the yearly birthday rounds and golf trips
• one documenting handicaps for all my mates who attend these golf days but don't have official handicaps
• my own version of the My Golf Spy ball tests where I've just copied the relevant data to me

Why do I do all of this? I have no idea, I just like doing it.

For me it would be different in matchplay because the score is completely irrelevant, doesn't matter if I score well of badly the only thing that matters in that format is beating the opponent. The score variable as well by 1 or 2 shots is a big difference to scoring averages over the course of a full season. Unless I've put the ball in the hole there is no relevance for it toward a counting score imo.

Like I said to each his own if it works for you then fair play.

 

[Lucifer MorningStar]

We have excellent practice facilities that’s where your iron play should be practiced.
I agree it’s old fashioned but there are reasons.

Pitch marks it’s hard enough to get members to do one never mind two.

and yet no matter how good the facility it can't replicate hitting the shot into an actual green. I use practice facilities all the time and would still play 2 balls as a single in practice play because it's completely different to hitting at an open field..

 

[Orikoru]

For me it would be different in matchplay because the score is completely irrelevant, doesn't matter if I score well of badly the only thing that matters in that format is beating the opponent. The score variable as well by 1 or 2 shots is a big difference to scoring averages over the course of a full season. Unless I've put the ball in the hole there is no relevance for it toward a counting score imo.

Like I said to each his own if it works for you then fair play.

The score is always relevant to me. I play matchplay the same as I play strokeplay anyway - just try to make the best score I can for each hole.

In winter there are very few rounds where I put the ball in on every hole, since I'm not putting cards in or entering many comps. I wouldn't want there to be a huge gap in my stats from December to February!

 

[clubchamp98]

and yet no matter how good the facility it can't replicate hitting the shot into an actual green. I use practice facilities all the time and would still play 2 balls as a single in practice play because it's completely different to hitting at an open field..

Fair enough but I was just pointing out you can’t do it at mine,

 

[Lucifer MorningStar]

Fair enough but I was just pointing out you can’t do it at mine,

Go on do it.... You know you want to

i would personally run the risk but thats me