How do you rate your putting?

[Crow]

Well what is the baseline to compare to ?

Surely to rate yourself on something in golf you must use a baseline that is the best you can be - a 10 out of Ten putter will be the best putters in the game - then you compare yourself to them

If we're going to use the very best for a 10 then equally the very worst should be a 1, somebody who misses from inside three feet more often than not, who three putts or worse most greens.

Then we'd say that most of us are average putters, 5 to 6 say, and it makes perfect sense that quite a few of us will be 7 or 8, some may even stray into 9 country.

 

[gazr99]

They would be 2 and 3 out of ten because ability wise that's what they are - hence why they have a HC to balance things out

You can compare against whatever you like but when marking yourself then surely it's better to be brutally honest

I have played with a lot of HC golfers in club matches etc and don't think I have ever seen a 20 HC who would be want I class as a 7 or 8 out of ten putter - never. Seen some with decent ish short games but mainly older guys with HC on the way up.

But who are you to say who is being honest with themselves.

You can compare yourself against Jordan Spieth all you like, as upsidedown has just said it's all subjective and by the looks of it like me, most of us compare against what we expect of ourselves and against players of a similar or probably slightly better level than ourselves.

I rate myself 7 and putting is one the stronger parts of my game and I have played with single handicappers who I wouldn't say are obviously better putters than me.

If we take your rules of comparing against the pros, should we also take into account how slick professional tour greens are compared to the average club green?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

If we're going to use the very best for a 10 then equally the very worst should be a 1, somebody who misses from inside three feet more often than not, who three putts or worse most greens.

Then we'd say that most of us are average putters, 5 to 6 say, and it makes perfect sense that quite a few of us will be 7 or 8, some may even stray into 9 country.

Yes most of us will more than likely be average putters - 5 out of ten , some a bit better than average up to 6 , then some good putters at 7 and excellent at 8

Only ones I have played with that are above 7 are the top amateurs and top golfers in the club

Overall I believe I'm a 6 on average - I'll mainly two putt with the odd three putt and the odd one putt thrown in. But know on good days like today I can have runs of single putts and have a day of 26 putts in a round

 

[HomerJSimpson]

But you will still be a low teen HC putter - so around 4/5 out of ten when you consider what sort of putter is needed to be a scratch or pro player which surely must be the baseline

Every one is entitled to an opinion. Just because you don't agree and rate putting differently it doesn't invalidate what others think. I voted myself as a seven. My opinion as I would class this as the most consistent and strongest facet of my game

 

[Deleted member 15344]

But who are you to say who is being honest with themselves.

You can compare yourself against Jordan Spieth all you like, as upsidedown has just said it's all subjective and by the looks of it like me, most of us compare against what we expect of ourselves and against players of a similar or probably slightly better level than ourselves.

I rate myself 7 and putting is one the stronger parts of my game and I have played with single handicappers who I wouldn't say are obviously better putters than me.

If we take your rules of comparing against the pros, should we also take into account how slick professional tour greens are compared to the average club green?

I can only go by what I have seen from playing with people on a daily basis

If you really believe you are a 7 out of ten putter but are a 20 Handicapper then the rest of your game must have some serious issues

But you still need to have a baseline that everyone uses to judge

Do you use people of the same HC ? Do you use scratch golfers etc but everyone using the same level - it's all subjective and a good debate and certainly will open eyes to how people see their own game and others they play with

 

[HomerJSimpson]

But who are you to say who is being honest with themselves.

You can compare yourself against Jordan Spieth all you like, as upsidedown has just said it's all subjective and by the looks of it like me, most of us compare against what we expect of ourselves and against players of a similar or probably slightly better level than ourselves.

I rate myself 7 and putting is one the stronger parts of my game and I have played with single handicappers who I wouldn't say are obviously better putters than me.

If we take your rules of comparing against the pros, should we also take into account how slick professional tour greens are compared to the average club green?

I quite agree. It's subjective but some people will never take that into account. I agree especially about playing with single figure golfers and they aren't any better at putting but definitely more accurate tee to green and have a better short game hence the handicap disparity

 

[Jimaroid]

I can only go by what I have seen

So other people are unable to see differently?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

So other people are unable to see differently?

I'm offering my opinion on what I have seen from playing with a wide range of HC golfers from 28 to Pro's

When I see a 20 handicapper be a 7/8 out of ten putter then I change my thinking but it appears to me that the HC is generally a fair reflection on ability - bar the odd person

 

[gazr99]

I can only go by what I have seen from playing with people on a daily basis

If you really believe you are a 7 out of ten putter but are a 20 Handicapper then the rest of your game must have some serious issues

But you still need to have a baseline that everyone uses to judge

Do you use people of the same HC ? Do you use scratch golfers etc but everyone using the same level - it's all subjective and a good debate and certainly will open eyes to how people see their own game and others they play with

Consistency is what is wrong with my game. I compare myself against what I expect to be doing as well those handicappers in the teens.

What is your baseline as you said earlier you rated yourself today 7/10 with 26 putts which most pros would think is a good round but overall your putting doesn't sound too dissimilar to mine yet you rate yourself 6? So what you average 26/28 putts per round? Which is less than most pros and to put it into perspective, Jordan Spieth this year is averaging 27.45 putts per round top European Tour putter is Jonas Blixt averaging 26

Like I said if you compare yourself against pros you need to take the difference in difficulty into account, as their greens are ridiculously fast and hard to read compared to most club greens

 

[gazr99]

I quite agree. It's subjective but some people will never take that into account. I agree especially about playing with single figure golfers and they aren't any better at putting but definitely more accurate tee to green and have a better short game hence the handicap disparity

Without a doubt, what I would do to hit the ball consistent and straight haha

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Consistency is what is wrong with my game. I compare myself against what I expect to be doing as well those handicappers in the teens.

What is your baseline as you said earlier you rated yourself today 7/10 with 26 putts which most pros would think is a good round but overall your putting doesn't sound too dissimilar to mine yet you rate yourself 6? So what you average 26/28 putts per round? Which is less than most pros and to put it into perspective, Jordan Spieth this year is averaging 27.45 putts per round top European Tour putter is Jonas Blixt averaging 26

Like I said if you compare yourself against pros you need to take the difference in difficulty into account, as their greens are ridiculously fast and hard to read compared to most club greens

I am in the same boat. I can play single figure golf in patches and like a 20 handicapper elsewhere. These fluctuations are why I'm off what I'm off but the putting remains consistent throughout. I have great days and bad ones but I usually average around the 30 putt mark and form my level that's better than handicap according to most stat programmes

 

[ScienceBoy]

IMO putting is the one area of the game us amateurs can be as good as the pros.

All other aspects its hard but anyone can be a quality putter.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Consistency is what is wrong with my game. I compare myself against what I expect to be doing as well those handicappers in the teens.

What is your baseline as you said earlier you rated yourself today 7/10 with 26 putts which most pros would think is a good round but overall your putting doesn't sound too dissimilar to mine yet you rate yourself 6? So what you average 26/28 putts per round? Which is less than most pros and to put it into perspective, Jordan Spieth this year is averaging 27.45 putts per round top European Tour putter is Jonas Blixt averaging 26

Like I said if you compare yourself against pros you need to take the difference in difficulty into account, as their greens are ridiculously fast and hard to read compared to most club greens

I have no idea what my average is

My baseline is as I explained earlier - the best putters are ten out of ten and work from there.

All the best putters I have seen and played with are scratch or very low cat 1 players - so I judge my game in all aspects on theirs

Yes I rate myself as on average as a 6 out of ten putter and I think as a HC golfer that's pretty decent

 

[Jimaroid]

I'm offering my opinion on what I have seen from playing with a wide range of HC golfers from 28 to Pro's]

Do you not think other people have done the same and come to a different conclusion?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Do you not think other people have done the same and come to a different conclusion?

Who knows - seems some are using a different baseline to me.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Who knows - seems some are using a different baseline to me.

And why should anyone take your baseline. It's about opinion and others feel differently. It doesn't make anyone right or wrong. Any hoo, I've had my say (don't want to get into trouble) and I'm happy with the 7/10 I put and feel it's realistic for my game. Others will feel differenty and that's fine. For me though, it's more about my game as a whole

 

[Region3]

I think people rating themselves relative to the rest of their game is always going to happen, so although it makes for an interesting thread I don't think you can draw any valid comparisons/conclusions from it.

Not singling anyone out because I can't remember what everyone has said previously, but in general I don't think for a second that me rating myself as a 6 means I am a worse putter than a 20hc that rated themselves as a 7 or 8.

 

[Hobbit]

Maybe there is a way to take most of the subjectivity out of it.

If 36 putts = regulation golf = 5/10, would 18 putts be 10/10? And if that is the case would 27 putts be 7.5/10? I'll leave someone more awake, and cleverer than me to work out the ratio for each shot.

 

[TheJezster]

It should also really be about length of putts rather than the number anyway. It's easy to play to manipulate a round to low 20's putting but that doesn't mean you've scored well. And as we don't measure the putts we make it will only ever be subjective to each person therefore not comparable to another person.

 

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ppr 31.67
ppGir 1.910
girs 61.7%

But in putts gained I'm losing -2.140 for 9rnds.

Bearing in mind the greens have been slit n cored and not perfect, I play off 3, I'd say realistically I'm no better then 5/6 at the moment. I'm reading the greens well and most are missing high side but I'm not holing many. So my putting stats are not good in my eyes.

Think the the only way you can judge is everyone go on SAM and post your readings but that's not feasible.