How do you get to be the captain?

As I have had recent experience of this at a long established members' club and having spoken to many other clubs I can only say that yours is an unusual club.

The vast majority of clubs appear to have increasing difficulty in finding candidates for captaincy.
Do agree with you on that one, Most of the clubs in Lincolnshire do struggle to find a victim, The 9 hole club I am also a member off really struggles, We have had Captains do the position twice regularly.
 
We used to have a few nominations and then a membership vote ... But that changed when a few of the nominations got zero votes and it seemed a little unfair to humiliate them.

Now the VC announces a new VC when he makes his drive in.
 
A friends Dad was captain of a golf club in Lancashire, he reckoned it cost him about £15k out of his own pocket and countless hours to do the job properly. He was honoured to do it.
It's a tough gig.
£15k that's a ridiculous amount if that's true, I reckon our captain here spent around £2500-3000 out of his own pocket at the club and I reckon he spent £1000 in fuel going to all the matches etc. Its more time than money as he was always at some golf club match or function and he did an incredible job for the year. He gave up a year of his life for the golf club.
 
There is so much a Captain needs to do these days and is usually out of pocket and out of favour with many members as you cant please all the people all the time.

There needs to be a larger support network with devolved powers, if I was Captain I would want 4 vice captains to share the workload which would be more efficient for the club and membership.

The additional benefits of having 5 people involved are numerous.
 
A friends Dad was captain of a golf club in Lancashire, he reckoned it cost him about £15k out of his own pocket and countless hours to do the job properly. He was honoured to do it.
It's a tough gig.

That sounds pretty exceptional.

Our captains receive a further discount at the bar. There is a general expectation that the captain has his hand in his pocket all year, but it is down to the individual how far they go with it.

From the captains that I know personally, between £1.5 & £2k seems normal.
 
A friends Dad was captain of a golf club in Lancashire, he reckoned it cost him about £15k out of his own pocket and countless hours to do the job properly. He was honoured to do it.
It's a tough gig.

Have heard stories that suggest your mates old fella got off lightly, but I couldn't confirm, with amounts that would wipe out my annual earnings and more!
 
15k?? What club was it? Must have been a biggie

Not really. It's a 9-holer. Quite a nice one but not all that big. I don't know the ins and outs of it, I only got the info second hand and I wasn't that interested as it was before I really took up the game.
I think he really pushed the boat out, as it were.
 
Nominated by the incoming Captain, usually after consulting the Sec & Past Captains. Its generally someone who has worked on the various committees and has a handle on how the club is run. The amount of time required to do the job very much depends on the structure of the club. At some clubs, the Captain's position is heavily involved in managing a number of aspects of the club, but at others its more of a figure head.

And then there's attending various functions and matches. Typically;

11 inter club league matches.
Various inter club knockout matches - men's & mixed.
At least 12 full committee meetings.
At least 20 sub committee meetings.
2 Club development meetings, involving all the members + the AGM.
Numerous interviews for new members.
Every Wednesday night, Saturday night, Sunday lunch time - on your feet each time announcing the results, whats happening in the club + the sick/lame & lazy list.
At least 12 social events.
And then there was popping into the office several times a week just to make sure things were running ok.
And then there's the end of year Captain's meals at various local clubs.

Fantastic year but tres knackering...
 
Its quite interesting I really did not have a clue about their other duties, I suppose that is because all the other clubs I have belonged to it was a case of buying the captaincy. Thus my view was, although fun and perhaps something nice to do, they were really not that important.
 
We were chatting a while back about the fact many clubs offer courtesy to the captain (s) - male and female. Fact is though in their year they are so busy they seldom get the chance to take up the opportunity. Only perk worth it if you ask me so perhaps it should be for immediate past captains.

I admit I've said no 3 times now to being vice/captain. First time I was way to inexperienced about all things golf, second time I'd seen how the captain was treated and no way was going to ruin my main hobby by setting myself up for that. Asked at new club and said no for some of the same reason but also too new at the club and knowing who does what/influences what is important.

I'm not saying never BUT have to say the back biting I see about the captain is enough to continue to put me off.
 
Nominated by the incoming Captain, usually after consulting the Sec & Past Captains. Its generally someone who has worked on the various committees and has a handle on how the club is run. The amount of time required to do the job very much depends on the structure of the club. At some clubs, the Captain's position is heavily involved in managing a number of aspects of the club, but at others its more of a figure head.

And then there's attending various functions and matches. Typically;

11 inter club league matches.
Various inter club knockout matches - men's & mixed.
At least 12 full committee meetings.
At least 20 sub committee meetings.
2 Club development meetings, involving all the members + the AGM.
Numerous interviews for new members.
Every Wednesday night, Saturday night, Sunday lunch time - on your feet each time announcing the results, whats happening in the club + the sick/lame & lazy list.
At least 12 social events.
And then there was popping into the office several times a week just to make sure things were running ok.
And then there's the end of year Captain's meals at various local clubs.

Fantastic year but tres knackering...

good list, but you missed the invitation days, charity days and other charity work, prize giving at the major ladies events, captain v pro challenge matches though the year.......

at our place the captain and v captain share responsibility for organising the friendly matches ie the v captain organises and the captain attends :thup: but that's going to differ from club to club. they don't get involved in new member interviews but apart from that your list wouldn't be far from ours.

baseline estimate is a net £5k (in year as captain your subs are creditied to your bar card) over the 2 years/ 2 roles (most as captain obviously) and the upside is a parking space and not being called 'pal' for a year........ result!

there's a queue of applicants a mile long every year :whistle:
 
We were chatting a while back about the fact many clubs offer courtesy to the captain (s) - male and female. Fact is though in their year they are so busy they seldom get the chance to take up the opportunity. Only perk worth it if you ask me so perhaps it should be for immediate past captains.

I admit I've said no 3 times now to being vice/captain. First time I was way to inexperienced about all things golf, second time I'd seen how the captain was treated and no way was going to ruin my main hobby by setting myself up for that. Asked at new club and said no for some of the same reason but also too new at the club and knowing who does what/influences what is important.

I'm not saying never BUT have to say the back biting I see about the captain is enough to continue to put me off.

I dread being asked but don't think anyone would be daft enough.... I just couldn't cope with the social side of it all!

:eek:
 
I dread being asked but don't think anyone would be daft enough.... I just couldn't cope with the social side of it all!

:eek:

Me either. We have 2 supper evenings a year and one is tonight - already wondering why I say yes!! I agreed to be Handicap and Press Secretary thinking that would put them off but they still asked me. Need to keep my head a bit lower in future...
 
Me either. We have 2 supper evenings a year and one is tonight - already wondering why I say yes!! I agreed to be Handicap and Press Secretary thinking that would put them off but they still asked me. Need to keep my head a bit lower in future...

Ach - you just know that you're going to love it tonight :)
 
Me either. We have 2 supper evenings a year and one is tonight - already wondering why I say yes!! I agreed to be Handicap and Press Secretary thinking that would put them off but they still asked me. Need to keep my head a bit lower in future...

You'd love it!

My stock answer to anyone moaning was, a) please put it in writing, and b) I'm not going to give you an off the cuff answer. I want you to recieve a considered judgement.... there was lots of huffing and puffing but very few bothered to write in once they'd calmed down.
 
I don't think I'll be asked as the club secretary (owners son) and I don't see eye to eye on a couple of things. As he has a major say in what goes on at the club that's pretty much that even though most members keep asking if I've been asked to be vice for next year.
 
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