How can that be fun?

My reply had nothing to do with handicaps but referred to your quote. Surely your opponent was "Playing within their own ability"? as per JN's Quote?

I must apologise so Clive i thought you were referring to handicaps when i read

" i read posts and look at the OP's signature and just smile "

I Still dont think it could be fun tho
:D
 
I also dont think I would come back every week if I had not see some progress.

but..

We often hear about people playing "boring golf" where you never really stray into the long grass, always keep your ball in play. You never really hit a shot where you you wonder "oh no". Good course management gives you a fighting chance to play to your handicap or better it by a few shots. No doubt this fella has a fairly dramatic round with plenty of dilemmas and escape attempts, maybe this is what he enjoys and would pack it in when he is defensively plodding around for 18 bogeys.

I say this after spending 2 hours with my Brother in law from Poland who has no sense of the game at all, he played 2 loops of our par 3 course and hit maybe 3 good shots but walked off saying he really enjoyed it.
 
We had a chap at my last club. Never met him nor known him but got drawn with him in summer midweek evening round. Everyone expressed sympathy for me !

The chap was well into his 70s, needed a buggy, and generally couldn't score a point on most holes . But I got chatting to him. He mentioned that his wife had died relatively recently, that he was now on his own, and that just coming out for a game was a really cathartic activity, got him some fresh air and some company and conversation. He said he didn't worry about whether he played well or not, and he was aware that he didn't want to hold us up. I told him to not worry and enjoy it. We had a great round, he told me a lot about his life and family, and was a pleasure to spend time with.

What a great attitude respect to you, your a gent.
 
My reply had nothing to do with handicaps but referred to your quote. Surely your opponent was "Playing within their own ability"? as per JN's Quote?

In that case, my apologies.

I don't think Jack meant his quote quite in the context of my FC however :D
 
To me golf is a game of skill and the whole point in playing is to score as low as I can. To do this I need to work at improving my golfing skills. It matters not to me whether its playing with a few mates or in a medal game, I want to play the best I can and achieve my personal goals. I can understand that others will have different goals and aspirations from their game but I cant understand how the person in the OP gets any enjoyment from his game.

Theres a guy I play with occasionally in a club Fiddle and his putting is terrible, the rest of his game is not bad but he seems to not have a clue on the putting green. i just cant understand how he cant/wont improve on this, he just puts in no practice or real thought into it.
 
To me golf is a game of skill and the whole point in playing is to score as low as I can. To do this I need to work at improving my golfing skills. It matters not to me whether its playing with a few mates or in a medal game, I want to play the best I can and achieve my personal goals. I can understand that others will have different goals and aspirations from their game but I cant understand how the person in the OP gets any enjoyment from his game.

Theres a guy I play with occasionally in a club Fiddle and his putting is terrible, the rest of his game is not bad but he seems to not have a clue on the putting green. i just cant understand how he cant/wont improve on this, he just puts in no practice or real thought into it.

Because maybe he doesn't take it as seriously as you.
 
To me golf is a game of skill and the whole point in playing is to score as low as I can. To do this I need to work at improving my golfing skills. It matters not to me whether its playing with a few mates or in a medal game, I want to play the best I can and achieve my personal goals. I can understand that others will have different goals and aspirations from their game but I cant understand how the person in the OP gets any enjoyment from his game.

Theres a guy I play with occasionally in a club Fiddle and his putting is terrible, the rest of his game is not bad but he seems to not have a clue on the putting green. i just cant understand how he cant/wont improve on this, he just puts in no practice or real thought into it.

I know this is going to sound crazy but some people just play this game for fun.
 
My FIL is 86, plays off 27 and is just glad to be able to get out in the fresh air and hit a few decent shots in his round. He's a bit deaf and has a lack of awareness but he's used to me shouting at him when he walks in front before I have played my shot, casts a shadow when I am putting or gets the score wrong on the card. So what, good luck to him.
 
I know this is going to sound crazy but some people just play this game for fun.
Reading the doom and gloom threads on here it is difficult to believe at times. It is a game, played for enjoyment, perhaps at bit of exercise, to get away from the stresses of life. It does seem to me that higher handicappers actually seem to enjoy the game more, and it is the low handicappers that are only happy when they play well. Generalisation of the day post.:whistle:
 
I know the guy Mike is referring to in the OP. To be fair to the guy in question, I have seen him play some nice golf but only in short bursts and not for a full 18 but I have never seen him complain or get upset. He is the epitomy of a social golfer and never has any desire to win anything or chase a low handicap. However it can be annoying when a partner is reloading or you are helping to search on most holes. I find it interrupts my flow but I wouldn't dream of not helping anyone look for their ball. Where do you draw a line. Do you say you can't enter a comp because you haven't a hope in hell of hitting the buffer. The golfer in question never held play up when I played and if he couldn't see the ball after a couple of minutes we moved on at his request and as long as he is happy what harm is he really doing
 
I know this is going to sound crazy but some people just play this game for fun.

Why should it sound crazy? are you being sarcastic. If you read my post I am talking in the first person and as such representing my views. I did explain that others have different goals and aspirations.
 
Im gna put my 2 penneth out there...

My regular partner and i play of the same mid handicap. We both play quite serious and get upset at **** shots etc. I also have my proper friends who like to play golf who are utterly terrible and probably wouldn't get even a 36 handicap. They love the game and i love playing with them, much more than my regular partner. Why? because its FUN.

we play 1 mulligan a round and they lose about 5-10balls during a 9 hole round. Do they care? No, And before you ask, we always let faster golfers through - we always repair pitchmarks divots and bunkers etc.
 
Im gna put my 2 penneth out there...

My regular partner and i play of the same mid handicap. We both play quite serious and get upset at **** shots etc. I also have my proper friends who like to play golf who are utterly terrible and probably wouldn't get even a 36 handicap. They love the game and i love playing with them, much more than my regular partner. Why? because its FUN.

we play 1 mulligan a round and they lose about 5-10balls during a 9 hole round. Do they care? No, And before you ask, we always let faster golfers through - we always repair pitchmarks divots and bunkers etc.


would you think it was fair to put one of your mates out with a couple of random guys in a medal?


this subject has been touched upon before!
 
would you think it was fair to put one of your mates out with a couple of random guys in a medal?


this subject has been touched upon before!

If another person playing poorly has an effect on your own golf then you need to take a look at yourself. Ive been in this situation many times and i'm the first person to help searching for balls. We've all been that guy playing poorly once in our golf lives, some for longer periods than others. Using an excuse of slow play effecting your rhythm is just a poor excuse
 
If another person playing poorly has an effect on your own golf then you need to take a look at yourself. Ive been in this situation many times and i'm the first person to help searching for balls. We've all been that guy playing poorly once in our golf lives, some for longer periods than others. Using an excuse of slow play effecting your rhythm is just a poor excuse

Thats Ok with me as long as he wants to get better. If he just considers it a laugh no matter how slow then I wouldn't want to play in competitions with him.
 
If another person playing poorly has an effect on your own golf then you need to take a look at yourself. Ive been in this situation many times and i'm the first person to help searching for balls. We've all been that guy playing poorly once in our golf lives, some for longer periods than others. Using an excuse of slow play effecting your rhythm is just a poor excuse


I have no problems helping people look for balls. its the amount of times the guy in the OP was losing his ball that bothers me. the list was just the times off the tee. you have to wonder how many other times in the round he lost balls. purely on tee shots alone, 25 minutes could be spent looking for his ball. by the laws of averages you would imagine he lost at least another couple over the round pushing the looking time over half an hour.

if you don't think this impinges on other players then you are wrong!

I have no problems with anyone playing golf except when it comes to competitions. I think a certain standard should be adhered to so EVERYONE can enjoy the game.
 
We have a lady member who plays off 36 but rarely gets within 10 shots of that but enjoys the game and the friends she has made at the club.
Some of us play to be as good as we can get, some of us play for the fun of it and some of us play for the social aspect of the game.
 
I have no problems helping people look for balls. its the amount of times the guy in the OP was losing his ball that bothers me. the list was just the times off the tee. you have to wonder how many other times in the round he lost balls. purely on tee shots alone, 25 minutes could be spent looking for his ball. by the laws of averages you would imagine he lost at least another couple over the round pushing the looking time over half an hour.

if you don't think this impinges on other players then you are wrong!

I have no problems with anyone playing golf except when it comes to competitions. I think a certain standard should be adhered to so EVERYONE can enjoy the game.

Its not that i don't think it effects other players because it does. if youre one of those who it effects then take a look at yourself. I can understand where youre coming from, but having a more laid back approach will do you wonders.
 
I have no problems helping people look for balls. its the amount of times the guy in the OP was losing his ball that bothers me. the list was just the times off the tee. you have to wonder how many other times in the round he lost balls. purely on tee shots alone, 25 minutes could be spent looking for his ball. by the laws of averages you would imagine he lost at least another couple over the round pushing the looking time over half an hour.

if you don't think this impinges on other players then you are wrong!

I have no problems with anyone playing golf except when it comes to competitions. I think a certain standard should be adhered to so EVERYONE can enjoy the game.

What certain standard should that be then ? Where is your cut off point where certain golfers can't play in club comps ( remembering they are only club comps at the end of the day )
 
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