How can that be fun?

garyinderry said:
no, amateur golf allows everyone to tee it up and enjoy it.

the vast majority of people who tee up in comps have a sneaky feeling that if they play well, today might be their day!
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Yes amateur golf does but you want to restrict who can tee it up and enjoy it.
 
HawkeyeMS said:
I think we are getting confused with the original point...This was not about the guy I played with, my experience of that round, him as a person, whether he should be playing in comps etc etc. He was simply the catalyst of my question...

How can it be fun to play 3 off of nearly every tee and spend time on just about every hole looking for your ball?
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Because fun is different for everyone.
 
im still puzzled as to how the Original post asking how it was fun to play as described.. got to not being allowed play at all ..

i wonder if i ask about wearing white trousers where oh where can that end up ??:D:D

I will add tho with the attitude and tone I'M (personal opinion) picking up off some of the reply's id hate to have a "discussion" of importance an disagree wit ye ..:D

I will repeat what i said earlier playing bad golf or not being able to play golf is no problem what so ever as it is only a pastime , your pastime , and you are fully entitled to enjoy it to the full ,

its when you start having a negative effect on others people ability to do the same ( enjoy their pastime , not golfing ability) them its a problem ..
Its the same in any walk of life

Drink alot
have a bad temper
drive slowly
Knock yourself out do all of the above , but when any of these actions affect others , then its not ok ..
 
garyinderry said:
comps dont generally take up the whole day.

put it this way, would it be fair to pair 3of the guys described in the op with a guy who has worked at his game to get to an 18 handicap?
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Then the 18 handicap player doesn't put his name down with them. I play with people who can't get above 30 points most days - doesn't bother me one single bit.

If the person can't focus on his own game then he needs to learn how. But it's elitism to stop people playing comps because you don't think they are at the required standard. It's those people that keep golf clubs alive - it's there comp fees that allow sub fees to not rise. How many players play near their handicap regularly ? I would say about 15-20% of the golf club - shall clubs not allow the rest to play comps and only allow the people with a chance it win to play.

It's not the European Tour or major's - it's club comps at the end of the day and one day one of those players you won't allow might have the round of their life or sink their first birdie in a comp or get their first two money and even win their first comp or get a hole in one. But everyone at the golf club must be allowed to be given the chance to play in a comp.
 
I have just looked at the last two comps at our place. there was one 27 and one 28 handicap in the field.


it seems that people do naturally wait until they are a decent level before entering comps.

while I agree that there are many many who turn up and don't get anywhere near 30 points, there is not a bunch of guys playing off 28 who were not at least competitive at one stage or another.
 
I thought you said at the start it wasn't about the handicap ?

But it seems you're glad that the high handicaps aren't playing in the comps. And you have made a judgement based on a start sheet.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
I thought you said at the start it wasn't about the handicap ?

But it seems you're glad that the high handicaps aren't playing in the comps. And you have made a judgement based on a start sheet.
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the starting handicap for even the worst player is 28 ! I didn't choose that number. its just that. I believe that players should be able to post a half decent score off that handicap or they shouldn't really be in competitions.

I only looked up the start sheet to see if it confirmed what you said about guys who keep the subs down. the numbers show that the vast majority of those in comps are able to play under a 28 handicap.
 
garyinderry said:
the starting handicap for even the worst player is 28 ! I didn't choose that number. its just that. I believe that players should be able to post a half decent score off that handicap or they shouldn't really be in competitions.

I only looked up the start sheet to see if it confirmed what you said about guys who keep the subs down. the numbers show that the vast majority of those in comps are able to play under a 28 handicap.
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That's not actually true, the committee doesn't have to allocate a handicap of 28 if there isn't sufficient evidence that it can be played to.
 
How many 28 handicappers do you have at your course ? We have 6 at one and 3 at the other.

Remember earlier you said they had to be competitive at their own handicap whether it be scratch or 28.

What do you consider a "half decent score" of any handicap ?
 
HawkeyeMS said:
That's not actually true, the committee doesn't have to allocate a handicap of 28 if there isn't sufficient evidence that it can be played to.
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do you know anyone that has been refused a handicap?

maybe people are aware that they should be at a certain standard before looking to enter competitive golf.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
How many 28 handicappers do you have at your course ? We have 6 at one and 3 at the other.

Remember earlier you said they had to be competitive at their own handicap whether it be scratch or 28.

What do you consider a "half decent score" of any handicap ?
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no you don't. you have 6 and 3 with handicaps. there are loads and loads of members who don't have handicaps. they don't enter competitions because they either don't care or deem themselves not good enough to compete so they don't bother.
 
garyinderry said:
no you don't. you have 6 and 3 with handicaps. there are loads and loads of members who don't have handicaps. they don't enter competitions because they either don't care or deem themselves not good enough to compete so they don't bother.
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How do you know what we have at our club ?

You making a lot of generalisations there
 
garyinderry said:
do you know anyone that has been refused a handicap?

maybe people are aware that they should be at a certain standard before looking to enter competitive golf.
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My old club used to refuse handicaps if they didn't see evidence in the cards that warranted a handicap of 28. I suspect they are in the minority however.
 
ok, I am generalising on the two courses ive been a member at in two different countries. I can only say what I see.

does everyone that plays at your two clubs have a handicap and play in comps.
 
HawkeyeMS said:
My old club used to refuse handicaps if they didn't see evidence in the cards that warranted a handicap of 28. I suspect they are in the minority however.
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that was the policy, but did you ever hear of it being enforced? genuinely interested to hear about that. are you aware of the scores posted?
 
HawkeyeMS said:
I know for sure it was enforced, i used to play with the handicap secretary regularly and he told me so himself.
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give him a firm handshake from me. he is a man that believes a certain standard should be met before comp play. kudos!

if you are speaking to him again soon, ask him what the scores were. just out of interest!
 
garyinderry said:
give him a firm handshake from me. he is a man that believes a certain standard should be met before comp play. kudos!

if you are speaking to him again soon, ask him what the scores were. just out of interest!
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It appears he is ensure the player gets the correct handicap as opposed to ensuring he is at a correct standard to play comps.

But golf is a sport for all and I believe everyone should be able to compete regardless of handicap or ability.
 
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