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What's to re read ? It clear as day - you don't think it's fun to play badly and affect other peoples ability to play well ?
How is he affecting anyone else ? Enjoyment comes in all forms and sizes.
How can that be fun?
- Thread starter HawkeyeMS
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What's to re read ? It clear as day - you don't think it's fun to play badly and affect other peoples ability to play well ?
How is he affecting anyone else ? Enjoyment comes in all forms and sizes.
bladeplayer
Money List Winner
your still wrong , breathe deeply & re read , thanks
woody69
Journeyman Pro
Let me help here.
He said "... all for having fun and the freedom to do what you enjoy regarding your pastimes but when it starts affecting other peoples ability to do so..." i.e. him playing so badly and other players spending their time looking for lost balls, playing slowly etc means they are no longer enjoying it.
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It starts affecting which other people ? How exactly has he affected anyone else's ability ?
Maybe it's still fun to him because it's not just about playing well
Did I re read it better that time or still miss something ?
TheDashingBlade
Club Champion
I can totally see Hawkeye's point of view here. It's not, as he said, about handicap. Golf isn't about searching on every hole for a ball in the clag. Whilst it is about getting your enjoyment, its a social game so surely you must realise your actions may impinge upon the enjoyment of others.
We've all had one of those days on the course where we're spraying it around and not finding the fairways. Once the score is done and dusted, if it really is about enjoyment, you don't worry too much about finding your drive and you can always drop a ball down and play up.
So whilst I can understand the importance of the 28 handicapper to get his enjoyment from the game, we must also consider our actions impact upon others.
We've all had one of those days on the course where we're spraying it around and not finding the fairways. Once the score is done and dusted, if it really is about enjoyment, you don't worry too much about finding your drive and you can always drop a ball down and play up.
So whilst I can understand the importance of the 28 handicapper to get his enjoyment from the game, we must also consider our actions impact upon others.
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That's part of golf - everyone searches for balls - it could be one or it could be 50. A guy has bad round and is judged.
bladeplayer
Money List Winner
yep your missing what im saying , i never mentioned anyone elses ability as in playing ability , its ability to have fun and enjoy their pastime , re read it if you dont believe me
i never said he shouldnt be playing he has a s much right to play as the next person , im saying when his playing ability effects other people ability to have fun or enjoy their round , then its a problem ..
rosecott
Money List Winner
It never ceases to amaze me how a significant number of our seniors turn up, pay a comp fee, play and are quite pleased to score around 20 points - or even less - and don't complain about their lot.
There is one guy in particular who turns up every week and he will never, ever, get within 16 strokes of winning anything (he did once, however scoop the 2s pool with the only 2). His most recent memorable performance was to take 17 strokes to get out of a bunker in a medal - but he comes back for more every week.
There is one guy in particular who turns up every week and he will never, ever, get within 16 strokes of winning anything (he did once, however scoop the 2s pool with the only 2). His most recent memorable performance was to take 17 strokes to get out of a bunker in a medal - but he comes back for more every week.
HawkeyeMS
Ryder Cup Winner
There was no problem, when did I say there was a problem? It just occurred to me as he was he was trying to hack his ball out of yet more deep rough that there really can't be much enjoyment in it.
rosecott
Money List Winner
Maybe enjoyment is not always what some of them are after. When the guy I mentioned played his 17th shot sideways out of the bunker his words were "it's not going to beat me".
HawkeyeMS
Ryder Cup Winner
Who's judging anyone? I was simply wondering how it can be fun to play 3 off of every tee and play just about every other shot out of deep rough\trees etc. It was no slight on my FC, I had no issue helping him find balls and to be fair to him, he was very conscious of the pace of play, never spent too long looking for a missing ball often had to wait for the group in front before we could play. It was more of a general "how can golf be fun when played like that", my FC was merely the catalyst of my thoughts.
Keeno
Challenge Tour Pro
I have to agree with the OP. There is nothing worse than spending all day looking for other peoples balls. Its no fun for anyone.
He may well be having fun smashing balls all over the shop and thats fine, but why not go to the driving range. Golf isn't about smashing drivers all over the place, its about getting the ball in the hole in as little shots as possible
I'm sure hitting irons off the tee must be more fun for all parties??
He may well be having fun smashing balls all over the shop and thats fine, but why not go to the driving range. Golf isn't about smashing drivers all over the place, its about getting the ball in the hole in as little shots as possible
I'm sure hitting irons off the tee must be more fun for all parties??
HawkeyeMS
Ryder Cup Winner
He often hit irons off the tee...
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
Maybe he used to play off the equivalent of 54 and he's twice as good as he used to be and making real progress 
The pattern of tee shots is not someone playing to a 27 h/cap, so maybe just a bad day at the office and he can smile through it rather than go off on a club chuckers holiday
The pattern of tee shots is not someone playing to a 27 h/cap, so maybe just a bad day at the office and he can smile through it rather than go off on a club chuckers holiday
Keeno
Challenge Tour Pro
norbs
Hacker
I personally would find it difficult to continue playing if every round was like that, but I'm pretty tough on myself with regards to continuously improving. Not everyone plays golf for the same reason I suppose, but I wouldn't see the point in playing competitive golf if I had played for years and was regularly having the kind of round mentioned by the OP.
If you are going to play competitively every week then I really do agree that to enjoy it you have to have at least the remotest chance to challenge your handicap even if it's just now and again. If it's just a knock and banter with the boys then go for your life.
I've only being playing a couple of years and took a break from the game as I couldn't hit an iron for love nor money and it was really getting me down, I wasn't enjoying it, but that's me. I worked hard on my game and have now got to a point where I feel I can actually play (loosely speaking), even winning my first comp this weekend and a second the week before.
But that's my view, I couldn't keep going how I was, respect to anyone who can hack forever and really not let it get them down. I'm sure they'll get far more pleasure out of golf than the rest!
If you are going to play competitively every week then I really do agree that to enjoy it you have to have at least the remotest chance to challenge your handicap even if it's just now and again. If it's just a knock and banter with the boys then go for your life.
I've only being playing a couple of years and took a break from the game as I couldn't hit an iron for love nor money and it was really getting me down, I wasn't enjoying it, but that's me. I worked hard on my game and have now got to a point where I feel I can actually play (loosely speaking), even winning my first comp this weekend and a second the week before.
But that's my view, I couldn't keep going how I was, respect to anyone who can hack forever and really not let it get them down. I'm sure they'll get far more pleasure out of golf than the rest!
mikee247
Challenge Tour Pro
I think there is a good point being made here by the OP... I don't know anyone who "enjoys" playing badly and says it was a great day after they shot 40 over par! Regardless of the ability of the player in question or handicap if you are hitting multiple balls off the tee and spending all day in the cabbage, its going to effect the other players and cant be fun for any anyone. 
They will (normally) be conscious of slowing play down and effecting the other players in the group surely?? I would. That's not fun for anyone regardless of how patient we all are.
No one is judging the poor fellow but simply suggesting, if he really is this bad and regardless of how patient we all are, it will become tiresome to others he's playing with. Enjoying the day out with others etc??? I cant see it personally, if I played like that every week ( and we all have sometimes) Id give it a rest or do something to get better ( practice, lessons) or just walk round with the boys and have a banter without playing!!
We have a couple of chaps in our society who are not very good players but they at least do put some shots together in a round which is great for them and obviously entices them back. They don't take the game too seriously, which is absolutely fine but neither do they keep hacking away every hole and every shot till the bitter end slowing the game down and frustrating their playing partners who do.
They will (normally) be conscious of slowing play down and effecting the other players in the group surely?? I would. That's not fun for anyone regardless of how patient we all are. No one is judging the poor fellow but simply suggesting, if he really is this bad and regardless of how patient we all are, it will become tiresome to others he's playing with. Enjoying the day out with others etc??? I cant see it personally, if I played like that every week ( and we all have sometimes) Id give it a rest or do something to get better ( practice, lessons) or just walk round with the boys and have a banter without playing!!
We have a couple of chaps in our society who are not very good players but they at least do put some shots together in a round which is great for them and obviously entices them back. They don't take the game too seriously, which is absolutely fine but neither do they keep hacking away every hole and every shot till the bitter end slowing the game down and frustrating their playing partners who do.
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londonlewis
Tour Rookie
JustOne
Ryder Cup Winner
If that's how the guy plays then he's done well to hold onto a 27 h/cap... I would assume he has better days.
He must have shot under 100 at some time.
One of my golfing buddies personal best is 155 and he loves playing. He'd play every day....... if he could find someone to play with :rofl:
He must have shot under 100 at some time.
One of my golfing buddies personal best is 155 and he loves playing. He'd play every day....... if he could find someone to play with :rofl:
