Hole in One or Not

[Deleted member 31467]

“Written on a scorecard” is more a metaphor for what score would you record for that hole - whether that’s in your head on a phone on a scorecard



So as it’s foursomes -the score for that hole is 3



I’m surprised within a golf forum that people would claim it as a hole in one



A hole in one is getting a ball in the hole in one shot from the start of the hole , not after another shot and a penalty shot

You seem to be a stickler for following definitions. How many of you HIO's were knocking around on your own or with mates and not recorded on a scorecard etc? Maybe you haven't had as many as you claim ?

 

[evemccc]

“Bore off” ? are you still in school

??

What do you put on scorecard ???

“In golf, a hole in one or hole-in-one (also known as an ace, mostly in American English) occurs when a ball hit from a tee to start a hole finishes in the cup. A ball hit from a tee following a lost ball, out-of-bounds, or water hazard is not a hole-in-one due to the application of a stroke penalty.”

Would your club golf insurance pay out for it ?‍

There are times on this forum that I see that the somewhat less-than- complimentary stereotype that golfers sometimes have is well-justified

 

[theoneandonly]

Of course you don't, because you hit two balls. Why do people keep saying this like it's the same? It's not.

Come on , over 2 thirds don't agree, sure it's a nice shot and story but nothing more.

 

[Jacko_G]

Come on , over 2 thirds don't agree, sure it's a nice shot and story but nothing more.

I can assure you - this forum is not a typical cross segmentation of golfers.

 

[theoneandonly]

I can assure you - this forum is not a typical cross segmentation of golfers.

I'd say going by the opinions and views I hear on here Vs what I hear in golf clubs it very much is exactly a spot on representation.

 

[Orikoru]

Come on , over 2 thirds don't agree, sure it's a nice shot and story but nothing more.

Are you sure?

 

[Slab]

“Written on a scorecard” is more a metaphor for what score would you record for that hole - whether that’s in your head on a phone on a scorecard

So as it’s foursomes -the score for that hole is 3

I’m surprised within a golf forum that people would claim it as a hole in one

A hole in one is getting a ball in the hole in one shot from the start of the hole , not after another shot and a penalty shot

So holing out on a par 3 in one shot with no card in hand (i.e any round not in a comp or qualifying) must be a metaphorical hole in one

 

[theoneandonly]

Are you sure?

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Fair enough, still way more then enough for my point to stand. That there are still so many no's means you can't really take it seriously.

 

[Orikoru]

Fair enough, still way more then enough for my point to stand. That there are still so many no's means you can't really take it seriously.

I wouldn't be surprised if there was a strong correlation in the answers... those who have had hole-in-ones saying no, those who have never had one saying "hell yes I'd count it".

 

[theoneandonly]

I wouldn't be surprised if there was a strong correlation in the answers... those who have had hole-in-ones saying no, those who have never had one saying "hell yes I'd count it".

Probably ?

 

[Beezerk]

I'd say going by the opinions and views I hear on here Vs what I hear in golf clubs it very much is exactly a spot on representation.

In fairness a lot of golf clubs do also have a quite a lot of argumentative prats.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

You seem to be a stickler for following definitions. How many of you HIO's were knocking around on your own or with mates and not recorded on a scorecard etc? Maybe you haven't had as many as you claim ?

Every hole in one I have had was put onto a scorecard either in a comp , a swindle or a social round or a match ?‍

But as I said it doesn’t need to be down on a scorecard - it’s whatever the score you have for that hole , it can be on your head if you so wish

So holing out on a par 3 in one shot with no card in hand (i.e any round not in a comp or qualifying) must be a metaphorical hole in one

Depends on the format you are playing surely ?‍

If you’re playing foursomes with your mate and he has the first shot and you need to hit “3 off the tee” then it’s the 3rd shot ?‍

I guess it also depends if you haven’t had one yet and are desperate enough to claim it but I don’t expect anyone to take it seriously

An insurance company wouldn’t pay out , nor would the club

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Not sure why people are hung up on whether a club or insurance company would pay out. That doesn't change that one shot and in the hole for the INDIVIDUAL and if they want to claim it I certainly wouldn't demean them for doing so

 

[BrianM]

My personal thought is it’s a 3 on the card but a Hole in One for the boy as he only took one shot to get it in the hole ?

 

[Dando]

Not sure why people are hung up on whether a club or insurance company would pay out. That doesn't change that one shot and in the hole for the INDIVIDUAL and if they want to claim it I certainly wouldn't demean them for doing so

but he wasn't playing as an INDIVIDUAL!

 

[Slab]

In foursomes you are playing as a single using one ball but two people hitting alternate- so in this scenario the shot isn’t the first shot on that hole so how can it a hole in one - the scorecard will verify how that hole was scored by that alternate shot team - in this case = 3 , the ball was hit twice plus one penalty shot makes 3

In scenario the second player is hitting “3 of the tee”

I got to wondering about this... does that mean if the first boy had holed his tee shot... both players can forever claim they have got a hole in one!

 

[Pin-seeker]

“Written on a scorecard” is more a metaphor for what score would you record for that hole - whether that’s in your head on a phone on a scorecard

So as it’s foursomes -the score for that hole is 3

I’m surprised within a golf forum that people would claim it as a hole in one

A hole in one is getting a ball in the hole in one shot from the start of the hole , not after another shot and a penalty shot

Don’t let it bother you too much Phil.
Just difference of opinion ??

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I got to wondering about this... does that mean if the first boy had holed his tee shot... both players can forever claim they have got a hole in one!

I guess the same people that want to claim the third shot on the hole as a hole in one could look to claim it ??

 

[theoneandonly]

In fairness a lot of golf clubs do also have a quite a lot of argumentative prats.

I was more talking about some of the more old fashioned views shall we say ??

 

[Jimaroid]

Let’s say I stood on the tee and duffed my teeshot forward one inch. I then hit my second shot and hole it, for a two. I’d be delirious but it’s not a hole in one. Despite being essentially identical stroke and distance.

So in foursomes if my partner duffed their shot forward one inch. I then hit my first shot and hole it, I’d again be delirious but it’s a two.

At no point is it ever a hole in one and it’s no different to playing the third shot if my partner goes out of bounds with their first.

Anyway. This is all missing the wider point that alternate shot golf is rubbish to begin with.