Tarkus1212
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The Editors of the Times, Sun, Mail and Express should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves. Mind you the last three publications are more comics than newspapers.
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Hillsborough Inquest
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Hacker Khan
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The Express did mention it in a banner heading on the front page, much as The Daily Fail did. But to expect the Express to lead on anything else apart from the weather and/or the latest health scare/miracle cure that they have taken completely out of context, is only ever going to lead to constant disappointment. As in addition to the obligatory immigrant scare story, it's all they ever do
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MegaSteve
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If The Sun disappeared off the newsstands don't believe too many tears would be shed...
Find it hard to believe MacKenzie is still writing for them... [or have I got that bit wrong]...
Find it hard to believe MacKenzie is still writing for them... [or have I got that bit wrong]...
Tarkus1212
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You have it right, I heard him and the Sun being discussed on the radio earlier today. He's a scumbag writing for a scummy rag - they deserve each other.
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Deleted member 18588
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In fairness he did, at least, seem contrite when interviewed on the news earlier today. He also seemed very angry when admitting that he had been misled and lied to 27 years ago by those in authority.
He felt he had been used and, in truth, I think he was as the Sun, in those days, had a massive readership so was particularly attractive to those in charge of propaganda.
His "crime" was to not ensure that the facts were not sought. After all in a democracy there is no point in having a free Press if the newspaper with the largest circulation swallows the Establishment's lies as in this cover up.
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Mickie do not be fooled by his latest comments, hes made a living off the back of that headline and up until 6 months ago he maintained what he wrote was correct.
Use google and have read of some of the disgusting comments he's made about that day.
They weren't the only ones to pedal the establishment's line, though once the other papers soon realised, they changed their tone.
only 6 months ago he continued with his bile and this was after the truth was released.
He's vermin.
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Stu don't mistake my comments as sympathy for Kelvin Mackenzie.
My concern is that the country's biggest selling newspaper allowed itself to be used as a mouthpiece for the propaganda of the Establishment thereby colouring public opinion.
Mackenzie showed some contrition but rather like the truth it has taken far, far too long before it has come out.
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It's well known Murdoch has the Tory party in his pocket but that's another story.
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I think that was most definitely true in the time of Mrs Thatcher but began to wane when Major was PM until courtesy of Rebecca Brooks transferred to Blair in '97.
Subsequently due to the dwindling influence of the printed media Murdoch has lost his ready access to the corridors of power. This is shown by his strongly anti-EU stance being in direct conflict with Cameron.
timd77
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His hilarious 'Lord Mackenzie of Anfield' so called joke is a prime example of this. As someone else described him recently, he's like a cornered rat and will do or say anything to get himself out.
A man in his position who sanctioned that headline should have the will and intelligence to check out the validity of his stories himself. The Taylor report was pretty clear in stating that the fans weren't to blame and he's had plenty of opportunity since to put things right, but he craves the attention. How the BBC still have him on question time is absolutely staggering.
Sadly, he's only the mouthpiece. The real criminals are the likes of duckenfield, popper, bent coppers, thatcher and her cronies, jack straw etc etc. Just hope they get what's coming to them.
Bunkermagnet
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When have the "red tops" ever cared about only printing the truth? They will print what they think will sell papers nothing more.
Grogger
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If anyone is interested the mid 90's Hilsborough docu-drama is on ITV tonight at 10:40pm
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Very good Documentary on BBC 2 now
timd77
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It was indeed. Absolutely heartbreaking. I've never seen some of that video footage before, harrowing.
Phil scraton is an absolute God send. He deserves the freedom of the city.
Phil scraton is an absolute God send. He deserves the freedom of the city.
gmc40
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It was a very good documentary. The way they were treated in the immediate aftermath was disgusting. Agree re: Phillip Scraton.
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Agree about Scraton - he will rightly be honoured by the city
I don't think I will ever comprehend what the families went through and how strong they were in their fight over the 27 years - it's a national disgrace how they covered it up and it's disgusting that it took so long to finally get the full truth. It's now time for the right people to be fully punished for their actions in both the tradegy and the cover up afterwards.
I don't think I will ever comprehend what the families went through and how strong they were in their fight over the 27 years - it's a national disgrace how they covered it up and it's disgusting that it took so long to finally get the full truth. It's now time for the right people to be fully punished for their actions in both the tradegy and the cover up afterwards.
sawtooth
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Finally got around to watching this on Iplayer, very harrowing indeed and very graphic wasn't expecting that at all.
Professor Scraton did such excellent work and he possibly could not have got started if it wasn't for that policeman who he agreed to meet and handover his version of accounts.
Families were treated extremely badly I could not believe what I was seeing and hearing.
I wanted to watch this because I really didn't properly know what went on and how it all started. I must admit that over the years I formed an opinion based on what was reported on TV and the papers and let's just say my opinion had changed dramatically since watching this programme.
Excellent documentary and its quite obvious now why the people fighting for justice could never let it go.
Liverbirdie
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Nice to hear, Sean - that is why the fight for truth (and for the general populace to realise what went on) has been won, or at least for 90% of people - there will always be some who dont want to hear it, and have already formed their opinions, sadly and mainly because of football tribalism. This goes beyond that for me.
The fight for justice has still not been won.
I still havent watched it myself yet, but will be watching it after catching up on lots of the other stuff.
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Well said Pete and just to add how sad it is that these families have had to fight for so long and who lost others along the way, they died not knowing if their loved ones would ever get justice.
sawtooth
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Well any doubters need to watch the programme and if they still have a different opinion afterwards then what can you do.
You need to watch it soon or record it as I don't think these stay on catchup forever.
I have a question , did anyone use the PA system on the day? To me it would have been helpful to all concerned if the ground staff or police made announcements. I'm sure this must have happened but it wasn't mentioned in the programme ( unless I missed it).
Just curious to what was said and when because it seemed that large part of the stadium inside and outside didn't have a clue to what was going on. Surely they had stadium PA back then?!
