handicap cut by 3 is it fair and correct

[mike912]

I'm not low (look at my sig) and I kind of agree that nobody should get more than a shot a hole - I've been down to 17 handicap - It's not any harder to play to that than 21 if you play regularly - you just have to put the time in - I haven't in the last decade)

If my club want to drop me three shots I'd be delighted - would make me work harder to play to it.

Id be delighted to be cut but just dont think Its justified at the min

 

[mike912]

Your post gives the impression wish to retain a false handicap to gain an advantage over other players.
I hope that is not the case.
You should be playing for the love of the game and not be fixated on prizes.
Something very fishy about any golfer who complains about a handicap cut.

I enter comps to try to play my best golf to win yes
Winning scores are usually 65
My best Is 76 off 26
I now have an extra 3 shots to loose
YES I want my handicap to go down but would also like to be competitive

 

[mike912]

I feel sorry for you , If you play in comps that`s what happens and you just have to except it as thats the rules , Its there for a reason as I have known of guys that are of high handicaps playing well and then knowing they going to get cut so they finish with a couple of big scores so end up in the buffer, in fact its not only them as mid range handicappers have done it too and I am not saying that you have , The rule is not there for that but it stops it and the object to playing in comps is to win and reduces one`s handicap is it not ..........................EYG[/QUOTE

I enter comps to try to play my best golf to win yes
Winning scores are usually 65
My best Is 76 off 26
I now have an extra 3 shots to loose
YES I want my handicap to go down but would also like to be competitive

 

[Wayman]

Congrats on the cut

 

[mike912]

Congrats on the cut

Thanks (I think) lol

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I enter comps to try to play my best golf to win yes
Winning scores are usually 65
My best Is 76 off 26
I now have an extra 3 shots to loose
YES I want my handicap to go down but would also like to be competitive

A 76 with two 10's and three 7's. which makes it is the equivalent of a 67/68.

 

[CMAC]

in mens comps the max h/cap to win should be 18 IMO. I don't mind the other h/caps (we all started high) but they should be for h/cap only with their own sweep if they so desire. You can still 'win' the comp but only once 18 strokes are taken off.

Just my (probably unpopular) opinion, apologies for going slightly off topic

 

[fundy]

I actually have a bit of sympathy for the Op here personally. Hes obviously quite new to the game, not broken a 100 yet but has had 2 cuts to take him from 28 to 23. Its all well and good for those of us who understand the handicap system etc but for a newish golfer it does seem as though the system is getting ahead of him and making the game harder for him before he's even won anything

 

[markgs]

in mens comps the max h/cap to win should be 18 IMO. I don't mind the other h/caps (we all started high) but they should be for h/cap only with their own sweep if they so desire. You can still 'win' the comp but only once 18 strokes are taken off.

Just my (probably unpopular) opinion, apologies for going slightly off topic

I agree, i played in a comp today with a 28 handicapper, i was on 22 points front 9 played really well, looked at the guy i was scorings card who hacked his way around 23 point. My heart sunk i then tried my best on back 9 just could not contend with all the shoots he had. Even when he was 3 off the tee still getting 8 for 1 point of par 5.... 18 should be max

 

[Foxholer]

in mens comps the max h/cap to win should be 18 IMO. I don't mind the other h/caps (we all started high) but they should be for h/cap only with their own sweep if they so desire. You can still 'win' the comp but only once 18 strokes are taken off.

Just my (probably unpopular) opinion, apologies for going slightly off topic

Or have Divisions, say 0-10, 11-18, 19+

 

[JCW]

I feel sorry for you , If you play in comps that`s what happens and you just have to except it as thats the rules , Its there for a reason as I have known of guys that are of high handicaps playing well and then knowing they going to get cut so they finish with a couple of big scores so end up in the buffer, in fact its not only them as mid range handicappers have done it too and I am not saying that you have , The rule is not there for that but it stops it and the object to playing in comps is to win and reduces one`s handicap is it not ..........................EYG[/QUOTE

I enter comps to try to play my best golf to win yes
Winning scores are usually 65
My best Is 76 off 26
I now have an extra 3 shots to loose
YES I want my handicap to go down but would also like to be competitive

I am sure you will , now you have to look at reasons why you had them10s n 7s , was it poor club or shot selection or just poor course management , could you have scored better as you now have 3 shots less to play with ..................................

 

[mike912]

I actually have a bit of sympathy for the Op here personally. Hes obviously quite new to the game, not broken a 100 yet but has had 2 cuts to take him from 28 to 23. Its all well and good for those of us who understand the handicap system etc but for a newish golfer it does seem as though the system is getting ahead of him and making the game harder for him before he's even won anything

You have hit the nail on the head fundy. thank you

 

[mike912]

I am sure you will , now you have to look at reasons why you had them10s n 7s , was it poor club or shot selection or just poor course management , could you have scored better as you now have 3 shots less to play with ..................................

Just duff shots

 

[Tashyboy]

I feel that you are looking for sympathy that is not coming your way, no one over the age of 16 should have more than one shot per hole.

Yeah they should. But am not goin into that one.


1, if you shoot a 10 on a par 5 they will only count it as a seven. Seven on a par forum it's a six.

2, secondly, what is the actual law on comps and handicap scoring during the winter, because all of the comps at our course have been non qualifiers. So why are some courses cutting handicaps and not others

 

[markgs]

Or have Divisions, say 0-10, 11-18, 19+

very good idea that if your getting 2 shoots on any one hole you should be in different league just dont think its fair, birdie on a par 5 with 2 shoots on 4 for 5 points!!! so wrong,

 

[mike912]

Yeah they should. But am not goin into that one.


1, if you shoot a 10 on a par 5 they will only count it as a seven. Seven on a par forum it's a six.

2, secondly, what is the actual law on comps and handicap scoring during the winter, because all of the comps at our course have been non qualifiers. So why are some courses cutting handicaps and not others

It was a none qualifier

 

[Tashyboy]

So how can the score be dropped on a non qualifier

 

[CMAC]

Or have Divisions, say 0-10, 11-18, 19+

divisions are fine but without 19+.

 

[mike912]

So how can the score be dropped on a non qualifier

Even club pro said they couldnt dock me

I give in....... thinking of changing clubs

 

[Foxholer]

1, if you shoot a 10 on a par 5 they will only count it as a seven. Seven on a par forum it's a six.

Depends on the SI of the hole - it'll be whatever the lowest score that scores 0 Stableford points - 9 in the case of the OPs Par 5s...

2, secondly, what is the actual law on comps and handicap scoring during the winter, because all of the comps at our course have been non qualifiers. So why are some courses cutting handicaps and not others

If the comps are non-qualifying, then there should be no changes to handicaps! Winter doesn't necessarily mean Non-Qualifying though. Too short, all bunkers out of play or too many temp greens will make it NQ though. Preferred Lies, closely cut, does not make it NQ - up until end of March (or later with permission).

You should ask why your comps have been NQs - probably because course shortened > 100yds from Measured Course.

Mike. If it really was a NQ, you should ask why you are being cut. There is provision for it, but it's meant to be used for 'Exceptional Circumstances' with 'compelling evidence'. And you may also have been considered in the Annual Review - even though there weren't enough scores for consideration by the system. Don't argue with the guy, just ask for an explanation why. And be pleased about it!