Andy
Tour Winner
If you eradicate the huge numbers it could happen, but getting your handicap reduced is the name of the game!
handicap cut by 3 is it fair and correct
- Thread starter mike912
- Start date
If you eradicate the huge numbers it could happen, but getting your handicap reduced is the name of the game!
mike912
Medal Winner
Surley your handicap is to help you reach the course par????
mike912
Medal Winner
FairwayDodger
Money List Winner
No, improving your ability is the way to reach course par. 31 over par is still 31 over par, whatever your handicap is.
G1BB0
Money List Winner
we all want to play to handicap but it wont happen every week. some weeks miles over some miles under or slightly under, unless playing most days and practicing loads then it will plateau. seriously, I would take it as a compliment and a challenge!
either way just go out and play, the scores will take care of themselves :thup:
either way just go out and play, the scores will take care of themselves :thup:
Andy808
Tour Winner
Just don't do what I did for the last 2 weekends.
Last weekend birdied 3 holes and parred 7 others and beat the HC comittee chairman in the mens knockout and then parred the first four holes on the front nine then birdied the first two holes on the back nine with two more pars for good measure playingin the medal this weekend.
I can see a cut coming in the very near future!
Last weekend birdied 3 holes and parred 7 others and beat the HC comittee chairman in the mens knockout and then parred the first four holes on the front nine then birdied the first two holes on the back nine with two more pars for good measure playingin the medal this weekend.
I can see a cut coming in the very near future!
Andy
Tour Winner
Cut out the 10's and 7's then.
rosecott
Money List Winner
It would seem to be some time since the initial allocation as he says he was reduced by 2 strokes following a 9-hole comp in September last year. It would be stretching it a bit to use the incorrect allocation card this long after the initial allocation.
mike912
Medal Winner
I am trying andy lol believe me I am trying lmao
19 over for 5 holes leaves you 7 over for the other 13. I'd say you're on the verge of shooting in the teens, or at least posting a score that will see you (unfairly) labelled a bandit. I think your handicap sec has seen what you did last year, and the potential with so many pars in your last round, and stopped you from posting something like 10 under h'cap and embarrassing him.
Take the positives from it and enjoy the cut.
markgs
Tour Rookie
people that have high handicap should want to reduce it, not rely on double shots. Personally i think the max handicap should be 18
Foxholer
Blackballed
Actually, it's really only to rate you so 2 players should have an 'equal chance' of winning.
Nett? Or Gross!
Presuming it's nett, then a 'stable' player (neither improving markedly nor getting noticeably poorer) will only play to their handicap or better about 10-20% of the time! The other times they will either play within buffer, and at your level (Cat 4) that's up to 4 shots over, or worse - for which the handicap only goes up 0.1 irrespective of how many over you are. On the occasions where he plays under handicap, he gets cut quite severely (0.4 for every shot below handicap in your case).
Improving players -m and I expect you are/will be one can win quite a few competitions on their way down to 'stability'. Some Handicap Secretaries - especially in Scotland - keep a very close eye on such players. The 'especially in Scotland' is because they don't have the same mechanism that the other Unions have - for Exceptional Scores Reductions (ESRs). These ESRs are 'after the event' reductions. The 'active Handicap Secretary' is often 'before the event'. The pros and cons of each can be argued forever! I favour the ESR approach - because of its consistency - but can see its disadvantages, especially at this time of year, when Winter practice can mean big improvements may have been made.
Notwithstanding that it's actuallly 12 over (Net 76 on Par 71) for the 13 (11 over CSS), I believe you are correct. How many birdies in there?
Active Handicap Secy? Not sure how many of them are still doing pre-emptive cuts in England.
@Mike Are you based in Scotland?
Last edited:
EarCat
Assistant Pro
I feel that you are looking for sympathy that is not coming your way, no one over the age of 16 should have more than one shot per hole.
mike912
Medal Winner
Not looking for sympathy at all so please do not think that.............. I presume from that comment you are a low handicapper
Nuff said
Andy
Tour Winner
Stick at it then, there's no better feeling than supping a few cold beers reflecting on a good round and handicap cut.
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Your post gives the impression that you wish to retain a false handicap to gain an advantage over other players.
I hope that is not the case.
You should be playing for the love of the game and not be fixated on prizes.
Something very fishy about any golfer who complains about a handicap cut.
I hope that is not the case.
You should be playing for the love of the game and not be fixated on prizes.
Something very fishy about any golfer who complains about a handicap cut.
JCW
Journeyman Pro
I feel sorry for you , If you play in comps that`s what happens and you just have to except it as thats the rules , Its there for a reason as I have known of guys that are of high handicaps playing well and then knowing they going to get cut so they finish with a couple of big scores so end up in the buffer, in fact its not only them as mid range handicappers have done it too and I am not saying that you have , The rule is not there for that but it stops it and the object to playing in comps is to win and reduces one`s handicap is it not ..........................EYG
davidy233
Tour Rookie
I'm not low (look at my sig) and I kind of agree that nobody should get more than a shot a hole - I've been down to 17 handicap - It's not any harder to play to that than 21 if you play regularly - you just have to put the time in - I haven't in the last decade)
If my club want to drop me three shots I'd be delighted - would make me work harder to play to it.
Break90
Tour Rookie
I'd be over the moon to get my handicap down by 3 shots in one fell swoop.
In fact I'll be over the moon to reduce by 3 shots in the next 6 months
In fact I'll be over the moon to reduce by 3 shots in the next 6 months
mike912
Medal Winner
[QUOTEFoxholer;1016507]Actually, it's really only to rate you so 2 players should have an 'equal chance' of winning.
Nett? Or Gross!
Presuming it's nett, then a 'stable' player (neither improving markedly nor getting noticeably poorer) will only play to their handicap or better about 10-20% of the time! The other times they will either play within buffer, and at your level (Cat 4) that's up to 4 shots over, or worse - for which the handicap only goes up 0.1 irrespective of how many over you are. On the occasions where he plays under handicap, he gets cut quite severely (0.4 for every shot below handicap in your case).
Improving players -m and I expect you are/will be one can win quite a few competitions on their way down to 'stability'. Some Handicap Secretaries - especially in Scotland - keep a very close eye on such players. The 'especially in Scotland' is because they don't have the same mechanism that the other Unions have - for Exceptional Scores Reductions (ESRs). These ESRs are 'after the event' reductions. The 'active Handicap Secretary' is often 'before the event'. The pros and cons of each can be argued forever! I favour the ESR approach - because of its consistency - but can see its disadvantages, especially at this time of year, when Winter practice can mean big improvements may have been made.
Notwithstanding that it's actuallly 12 over (Net 76 on Par 71) for the 13 (11 over CSS), I believe you are correct. How many birdies in there?
Active Handicap Secy? Not sure how many of them are still doing pre-emptive cuts in England.
@Mike Are you based in Scotland?[/QUOTE]
Based In england and no birdies
Nett? Or Gross!
Presuming it's nett, then a 'stable' player (neither improving markedly nor getting noticeably poorer) will only play to their handicap or better about 10-20% of the time! The other times they will either play within buffer, and at your level (Cat 4) that's up to 4 shots over, or worse - for which the handicap only goes up 0.1 irrespective of how many over you are. On the occasions where he plays under handicap, he gets cut quite severely (0.4 for every shot below handicap in your case).
Improving players -m and I expect you are/will be one can win quite a few competitions on their way down to 'stability'. Some Handicap Secretaries - especially in Scotland - keep a very close eye on such players. The 'especially in Scotland' is because they don't have the same mechanism that the other Unions have - for Exceptional Scores Reductions (ESRs). These ESRs are 'after the event' reductions. The 'active Handicap Secretary' is often 'before the event'. The pros and cons of each can be argued forever! I favour the ESR approach - because of its consistency - but can see its disadvantages, especially at this time of year, when Winter practice can mean big improvements may have been made.
Notwithstanding that it's actuallly 12 over (Net 76 on Par 71) for the 13 (11 over CSS), I believe you are correct. How many birdies in there?
Active Handicap Secy? Not sure how many of them are still doing pre-emptive cuts in England.
@Mike Are you based in Scotland?[/QUOTE]
Based In england and no birdies
Similar threads
