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Not far enough, no. It was completely out of order and happened several times today. Just a bunch of impatient idiots.
Far enough is subjective I guess.

If they didn't on any occasion actually drive through you then technically they've done nothing wrong.

I agree it's horrible playing and feeling pressed though.
 
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They did once. Which meant every subsequent time they teed off before I hit my second I knew the potential was there. But it isn't being pressed that's horrible. It's the sickening feeling in your stomach when you hear a ball being hit behind and you know it can reach you or the sound of a ball landing behind but you don't know how far behind it is.

It's bad enough if they can't actually reach you and totally unacceptable if they can. Happens all the time and it's just so damn inconsiderate.

Then I'm fully on your side. At that point they should realise that they should wait and weren't in a scenario like I've been.

Knowing I won't reach, I'll tee off, especially when with certain friends and I know the extra time will come in handy when we're looking for 4 balls......
 
It's not just about reaching though, it's completely unreasonable to hit it anywhere near the group in front and, for me, a decent rule of thumb is, as a minimum, if they haven't hit their second shots you can't play.

I can only go by numerous clubs I've played at that state if a group appears within your best hit. Then wait.

Realistically. If group one all hit drives 250yards and group 2 all know their best hits will be 200. Waiting till the first group have played twice nedlessly slows play.

Now that might not be your scenario today as they've clearly hit past you. But a rule to have to wait for a 2nd shot is flawed imo.
 
It is not acceptable in any scenario to hit a drive before the group ahead are walking after hitting their second shot.

I have heard stories of balls being hit back towards the tee by players who been ‘driven through’. I don’t condone that approach, but I have on occasion placed a ball that has been driven through my group onto a tee. That has at least produced an apology.

And yes I have driven through a group, once on holiday I drove through a group in front who were well within range, I don’t know what happened as to why I did it, a severe lack of concentration blanked them out of my mind I think. It was as though they weren’t there. I was shocked that I did it and couldn’t apologise enough. They were quite rightly not impressed.
 
It's not just about reaching though, it's completely unreasonable to hit it anywhere near the group in front and, for me, a decent rule of thumb is, as a minimum, if they haven't hit their second shots you can't play.

Yeah agree completely, had a group behind us, hit at us at Bearwood last week, not had it happened for ages prior to that. Their ball ended up 15-20ish yards behind us(3 of us on fairway waiting for the green to clear), so I did a gentle shout of Fore back at them and waved my hands. Was not impressed.

After my son got knocked out by a golf ball and spent a night in hospital etc, tend to be less tolerate nowadays of such careless actions.:oops::mad:
 
There is no excuse for it. Only happened to me once, i was in a green side bunker and a ball rolled in behind me. Must have been some drive to be fair as the tee is 290 yards away. I may have accidently stood on his ball on my way out the bunker.
 
Never acceptable for someone to drive when you are standing in the fairway waiting to play your approach shot, even if they think they can't reach you - Kaz is right that the thud of a ball hitting the fairway behind you isn't a nice thing.

Bothers me a lot less if I am on the green of a par four and a ball from the tee trundles onto the putting surface, I've twice this year driven a 280 yard green that I can't normally get within 40 yards of, nobody was on the green either time, and I wouldn't drive is someone was on the green, but I can understand that happening.
 
I can only go by numerous clubs I've played at that state if a group appears within your best hit. Then wait.

Realistically. If group one all hit drives 250yards and group 2 all know their best hits will be 200. Waiting till the first group have played twice nedlessly slows play.

Now that might not be your scenario today as they've clearly hit past you. But a rule to have to wait for a 2nd shot is flawed imo.

That is supposing a number of things. The forward group(player) may not know the limits of the rearward group( player).
Or, it is reasonable to expect the forward player to be put off by the sound of the rearward hitter making his stroke.
It's a little time to wait just til the forward player has hit his shot.
It is inconsiderate, and worse still, intimidating, to do otherwise.
 
That is supposing a number of things. The forward group(player) may not know the limits of the rearward group( player).
Or, it is reasonable to expect the forward player to be put off by the sound of the rearward hitter making his stroke.
It's a little time to wait just til the forward player has hit his shot.
It is inconsiderate, and worse still, intimidating, to do otherwise.

If the group behind clearly know the group are nowhere in range then I don't see an issue tbh.

Obviously re the op of this that wasn't the case. Without wishing to offend anyone. If I'm in a group of big hitters (other than myself), I wouldn't expect them to be offended if the ladies, seniors, or people who hit it as far as me teed off before they hit a second into a par 5 they could reach for example.

Saying never imo is just too militant. What about the guy who's duffed 3/4 along the fairway. And what range do you offically decide he is far away enough whilst the following fourball and now also waiting at the tee.

I'm not saying do it constantly. Or in cases where you You have any doubt that you may get close. But a ball that's blatantly come to rest 30 yards short is of no threat to anyone. And saying never is just too extreme imo.

If we always waited for people to clear off when they're blatantly out of range then there will be times where people end up waiting needlessly too.
 
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I can see both sides of this.
I'm definitely with Kaz, to have someone behind teeing off because they can't reach you can be really disturbing. Not knowing when the whack of the driver and the landing thud will be is not a nice feeling.

But I can definitely see the other side too, because a guy on the tee who knows he can't get near the guy in front is just using common sense by teeing off.

I don't think we can arbitrarily say "you can't play til I've hit my 2nd", but once the landing area gets to within 30 or so yards it can definitely be off-putting.

I think being somewhat hard of hearing maybe helps me here. If I hear a driver being hit I’d have no idea of it was 200 yards behind me, or 50 yards across on a different tee.

Re Kaz, I totally see her point as they had driven to her place on the course so clearly it would be in your mind from then onwards.
 
I can see both sides of this.
I'm definitely with Kaz, to have someone behind teeing off because they can't reach you can be really disturbing. Not knowing when the whack of the driver and the landing thud will be is not a nice feeling.

But I can definitely see the other side too, because a guy on the tee who knows he can't get near the guy in front is just using common sense by teeing off.

I don't think we can arbitrarily say "you can't play til I've hit my 2nd", but once the landing area gets to within 30 or so yards it can definitely be off-putting.
As your last point - on my course I know where my drives tend to land, so I'll just wait until they are probably about 30 yards beyond that before I drive. If I'm not as familiar with the course I'll wait a little bit longer until they've all hit and started moving on again.
 
I had 122 to the pin on the 2nd at the weekend.
After a full wedge, my next shot was from 88 yards, approximately at right angles and from the rough on the other side of the adjoining fairway....
Oh how I laughed ???
Cracking isn't it. Went down to work on my pitching only, not because I had been circumnavigating the hole with a shank or two but because I wanted to simply get better with the distance control. Hitting a few nicely to warm up and as soon as I measured my 20, 30, 40 and 50 yard marks and started in earnest they started. Any thoughts on distance work gone and the next 15 minutes back working on strike. Frustrating in spades but golf isn't meant to be easy and better on a practice ground than the course
 
I had 122 to the pin on the 2nd at the weekend.
After a full wedge, my next shot was from 88 yards, approximately at right angles and from the rough on the other side of the adjoining fairway....
Oh how I laughed ???
Been there too many times...scarred for life...but there is a way through...and I think I discovered it yesterday evening. Unfortunately it is the 3rd miracle cure I've discovered in as many months :(
 
Sockets aside...all of a sudden over the last couple of rounds I've been having occasional difficulty getting out of bunkers - and I am good out of bunkers. But before going out last night I realised what I'd changed in my address for a bunker shot - and keen as mustard to try out my realisation I went out yesterday evening - but yes - you guessed it. I didn't go into a single bunker. Irritating. Might have to go to our practice bunkers (even more irritating)
 
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