Golf Random Irritations

[sunshine]

It's not a rule, just courtesy that I show to players ahead and would, ideally, like shown to me. When you hear a shot behind, you don't know if you're out of their range or not. But I know that, on average, a four ball of men will probably have at least a couple of players who hit it significantly further than me so I find it very disconcerting when they start teeing off while I'm preparing to hit my second shot.

This happened to me a couple of weeks ago. I was putting out on a par 3 and the women in the group behind teed off while we were still putting. They couldn't reach the green so decided to play, but it was really disconcerting standing on the green while someone is taking a full swing with a driver only 150 yards away!

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Playing first proper comp of the year after work tonight. Quick glance at the leaderboard.... just the 46 points to beat

Best take your “A” game

 

[Orikoru]

Playing first proper comp of the year after work tonight. Quick glance at the leaderboard.... just the 46 points to beat

So they tell you what other people have scored before you enter?? That's not right surely.

 

[patricks148]

Playing first proper comp of the year after work tonight. Quick glance at the leaderboard.... just the 46 points to beat

just need to get your habdicap up then, a nice round 12 would do it i'd imagine

 

[Orikoru]

There’s live scoring on the website as results are posted. It’s great.

I'm not a fan of that. How many people do you think saw that someone had scored 46 points and decided not to bother entering? I think it should all be blind, you take your chances.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

I'm not a fan of that. How many people do you think saw that someone had scored 46 points and decided not to bother entering? I think it should all be blind, you take your chances.

That is one of the reasons our place does not do it, same for Open Days we hold. People would pull out or worse, creatively get a score just above the winning one .

The concept of a live leaderboard sounds good but in practice I am with you on this.

 

[patricks148]

Would need about 100 bad rounds! Bring on the WHS and I’ll be able to do it in a fraction of that!

heres hoping

 

[HampshireHog]

Not a fan of IG leaderboard showing “in progress“ rounds alongside posted rounds, only because it handles it so badly.

Can’t see a problem knowing the leading scores it wouldn’t stop me entering. I just hope to play well a win or any prize is a bonus.

 

[Orikoru]

I couldn’t disagree more! You’d need to be a sad git to pull out of a comp just cos someone else has a good score.

That doesn't mean it doesn't happen does it? I just don't think latecomers should have the advantage of knowing how well they need to play to win it, that's all. Doesn't seem to fair to me.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

There’s live scoring on the website as results are posted. It’s great.

I hate it.. And so avoid looking at scoreboard at all costs or engaging in any discussions over 'what's in'.

If I know that say 46pts stableford is in, and maybe a couple 42 or more, then I know from the outset that I haven't a hope in hades of winning or even coming in the frame. I don't only enter comps to win them - of course I don't - but if I know before I tee off that I can't win then a key element of my motivation ad enjoyment is wheeched away.

 

[Orikoru]

The higher level you play at the more common this is. I’ve played many comps where hole by hole scoring is updated every few holes on the web. And of course the pros have it all the time. I don’t see why club golfers shouldn’t also have it rather than having to wait a day or more to find out the results.

I don't think it's the same for the pros because the vast majority would back themselves to win on their day so they probably quite like knowing what they have to beat. Most handicap golfers probably don't have this confidence...

I agree with @SwingsitlikeHogan - as he says I don't play only to try and win, but if I walk off the course with 41 points say, I feel like the emotion should be hope that I may have won, I shouldn't be walking off knowing that 41 was nowhere near good enough. Each to their own though. They do say it's the hope that kills you I suppose.

 

[Papas1982]

That doesn't mean it doesn't happen does it? I just don't think latecomers should have the advantage of knowing how well they need to play to win it, that's all. Doesn't seem to fair to me.

I'd be interested to see if there is in fact any advantage to be had.

The later starters on the pga today will start as the earlier groups finish. I wonder if there are more late starters at the top after day one?

 

[Orikoru]

I'd be interested to see if there is in fact any advantage to be had.

The later starters on the pga today will start as the earlier groups finish. I wonder if there are more late starters at the top after day one?

As I said before, let's not pretend it's the same for pros as it is for us. It's not like they're going to see someone at -10 and go "actually I won't bother".

 

[Papas1982]

As I said before, let's not pretend it's the same for pros as it is for us. It's not like they're going to see someone at -10 and go "actually I won't bother".

I'm not discussing whether pro's wouldn't bother. I'm talking about quantifiable proof of how often it would get equalled or beaten. I'm sure there could also be the opposite effect too, how many times have we seen Rory (other examples available) be well down the leader board Sunday am and have a blinder as he's relaxed knowing his score probably won't matter.

That being said, i enter comps to lower my handicap not to win (that's a bonus), if anyone chooses to walk away knowing the score they have the issue. Not the scoring system.

 

[davidy233]

I'm not a fan of that. How many people do you think saw that someone had scored 46 points and decided not to bother entering? I think it should all be blind, you take your chances.

Don't think I've ever heard of anyone not entering a comp because there was a score that scared them off playing. I suppose though there are people like that, same sort of person who walks off if they start badly.

 

[Dan2501]

I think the bigger potential issue is that certain groups of people would know what score they have to beat and manipulate their scores to win. Not sure how likely it is, or how often it would happen, but I wouldn't even bother giving them a chance to if I had the choice. There will be people out there who are happy to cheat to win, the same sort of cheating that would be nigh-on impossible in an elite amateur or professional event where playing partners are often drawn. Potential negatives of publicly displaying an in-progress leaderboard outweigh the benefits I think, especially in an Open.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

4 putting the 1st followed by 2 blobs

Then playing nothing short of great golf for the rest of the round lol

 

[sunshine]

So they tell you what other people have scored before you enter?? That's not right surely.

You can always choose not to look at the scores, if you're worried about scoreboard pressure. I can't think of any sport, including golf, where it's not right to know the scores of your competitors, "blind" scoring as you refer to it. Imagine coming out to bat second in a cricket match, not knowing what total you have to chase.

 

[Slime]

The day I manage to flush my irons is the same day that my putting falls off a cliff!
I managed, on consecutive holes, to see a long putt disappear over the edge far of the green!

 

[Slime]

I don't think it's the same for the pros because the vast majority would back themselves to win on their day so they probably quite like knowing what they have to beat. Most handicap golfers probably don't have this confidence...

I agree with @SwingsitlikeHogan - as he says I don't play only to try and win, but if I walk off the course with 41 points say, I feel like the emotion should be hope that I may have won, I shouldn't be walking off knowing that 41 was nowhere near good enough. Each to their own though. They do say it's the hope that kills you I suppose.

If I walk off the course with 41 points I honestly wouldn't care what anyone else had scored ......................... I'd just be buzzing in the knowledge that I'd played bloody well.