Golf Juice

LP; you stated in reply to my post "...Or then again maybe it's easier to be a descending voice than it is to do something about any issues yourself."

Why be insulting when challenged ? You have absolutely no knowledge of what I do or do not do to encourage golf to a wider audience. Neither do you have any basis by which to question my knowledge of marketing, broadcasting or other professional matters - the Forum is about debating opinions to which we all have a free right. As you can see by the comments above you seem capable of turning off people from responding to a thread - their comments could well have taught us all something

Just because you choose to write in the style of stating your views as absolute facts for use mere mortals to worship does mean your seen as God.

Insulting ?

Yet its ok for you to make disparaging remarks towards myself ?

"Don't kid yourself with seeking higher ideals - that's just self justifying rubbish"

"I'd wager you also agree with school that give everyone prizes at sports day because we don't want to create winners and losers"

You also made what i would call derogatory remarks towards the makers of the program and their motives

Think my observation was quite justified when someone doesnt offer anything alternative to what they are trying instead just critisizes

A lot of what i have stated is facts - hence why i backed them up with what has happened at my golf club and also know what they are trying to do with the show ( one of the creators used to be a member at my place ) -

So if im wrong and you have some insight in what they could do to improve the show then let me know and ill pass your details to them - they rely on a lot of help because of their small budget.
 
End of the day the 1st episode was terrible,hopefully it'll improve as we all like anything golf related.
LiverpoolPhil is doing what LiverpoolPhil does and draining the life out of the thread,if he didn't know the people that made the show he wouldn't be banging on about it.
 
If the intention is to encourage younger people to become interested in the game Sky Sports 4 is the wrong place. One would have to be interested in golf in the first place to be watching that channel.
 
End of the day the 1st episode was terrible,hopefully it'll improve as we all like anything golf related.
LiverpoolPhil is doing what LiverpoolPhil does and draining the life out of the thread,if he didn't know the people that made the show he wouldn't be banging on about it.

Does he really though?
 
Does he really though?

Apparently,if so maybe he should send them a link to this thread.
Maybe the constructive criticism could help the show.

I honestly don't see how showing people mucking about on the golf course helps attract young people to the game.
As soon as they start mucking about on the golf course they'll be asked to leave. And rightly so.
 
LiverpoolPhil is doing what LiverpoolPhil does and draining the life out of the thread,if he didn't know the people that made the show he wouldn't be banging on about it.

Surely not :whistle::whistle:

If he does know the people he needs to let them know what an absolute horlicks they've made of the first one and that while Bullard is on there it won't improve one iota. I fail to see how one thirty minute, poorly constructed show is going to directly relate to a greater uptake by young golfers.
 
Just watched ep2:
Bullard & the poor mans Georgie Thompson 😣
Seriously can't see this show getting any better anytime soon.
 
Didn't see the episode 1 but watched episode 2, reasonable watch, I get what they're trying to do, Bullard wasn't misbehaving, probably needs a bit of time for the presenters to establish themselves. Harmless fun.
 
its amusing how many people get worked up over this sort of thing on here.

I have watched both episodes and after both I said 'well that was a bit ****' but I will continue to watch it because if I don't the alternative is Hollyoaks...

I also seem to be one of the few that likes Crossfield and Bullard.. I found Spoony rather irritating last night when he continuously butted in trying to talk about himself the whole time - I feel he brings nothing to the show at all and should be ditched. Zoe I think has been put there as the 'eye candy' and diversity, which is fine, but they could probably find someone better to replace her. The only two I would keep is Crossfield and Bullard!

I kinda see what they are trying to achieve and I think (hope) they get there as they havent really found their stride yet. It all seems a bit crammed in and rushed.
 
Watched it for the first time last night, not too impressed I'm afraid. I like Crossfield, but Bullard is not my cup of tea at all. Thought the segments were all a bit rushed and too quick - even Crossfield's review of Troon was a bit something and nothing. Might give it one more try but not adding it to my Sky Never Miss......
 
Got to say, I think this is getting somewhere, first two weren't all that but last night's show seemed like an improvement! Can definitely see what they're trying to do, what do people think?
 
Got to say, I think this is getting somewhere, first two weren't all that but last night's show seemed like an improvement! Can definitely see what they're trying to do, what do people think?

I would place good money on you being the person that runs the golf juice twitter account....
 
There has been marginal development but there's still plenty of room for improvement. Crossfield is actually doing okay, some of his youtube slang is breaking through and will please some; Zoe Hardman is clearly the best of the lot except when she was drooling all over Gethin Jones. The pitch challenge is still a bit dodgy - but as the leaderboard fills out a bit it becomes more relevant, but it's just not a great visual spectacle - they could benefit from increasing the circles out to a 5m radius or so. Bullard was less annoying last night and really 3 on screen presenters with the fourth contributing an external segment is actually better - the anchor (Zoe), pro (Mark) and comic relief (bullard) with Spoony contributing via VT although not enough was made of Player.
 
Got to say, I think this is getting somewhere, first two weren't all that but last night's show seemed like an improvement! Can definitely see what they're trying to do, what do people think?

Bullard is rubbish everything about him is annoying he is clueless get rid off him and it could be watchable.
 
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