Golf Juice

I wanted it to be good, but it was done so badly. No clear direction, having four presenters was too much.

There's clearly no budget which shows a lack of faith

They gave no time to introduce people to the presenters, something about their golfing history would have helped.

The editing and camera work was awful, kept getting distracted by what was happening in the background

Anything that was funny about Crossfield was taken away

I want this to be good but it's going to be a massive task to turn it around
 
For a pilot, it still needs some creases ironed out. Yes more crowed was needed, and the random background shots of Joe Miller and others chatting away and not paying attention was distracting, along with the wobbly camera man. This is all production and probably budget affected.

Bullard was a bit full on, Zoe and Spoony were trying to hold it together. And I've never heard Mark so quiet, but better than everyone talking over Jimmy.

Marks bit with Haye could of been good, but no one was listening and was all rushed. You couldn't see the ball flight, which I sure wasn't great but could of been edited in to do whatever they needed it to do, no need for a shot tracer, but could of used GC2 software or something like Mark does in photoshop maybe...

My god the two Me and My golf boys are cringe in their matching outfits, I just can't get past that to like them!

To echo others, half the content and give each bit twice the time and it would flow better. I'll keep watching to see how it goes, but not sure Sky will fund much more on the basis of that pilot. Sorry!
 
Watched it with an open mind, awful, just god awful.

I have no interest in football so I'm very unfamiliar with Jimmy Bullard, or any of the crew for that matter apart from Crossfield. Bullard just came across as annoying and loud, a Heavyweight boxer who has never played before in his life vs a female Tour Pro on a 100 yard wedge shootout - eh ? What could best be described as fannying about around Stoke Park , then 5 minutes of adverts for Sky Golf, Andy "Prodman" and Piers Ward playing a shot each on the Troon postage stamp.

I just found it irritating and pointless.

It seems to be all part of this big exercise to make golf appear more 'fun' to the masses and appeal to those non-golfers who might be tempted to give it a go, never mind the fact that it is on Sky Sports 4 a channel dedicated to Golf watched by already avid golfers who really want a little more content than an ex footballer and DJ dicking around one of the most expensive courses in Buckinghamshire.
 
Doesn't bode well this.

Sounds like it's trying to copy a winning formula from soccer am which I can never really be bothered with.

I was hoping for a slightly more serious show talking about the swing local courses plus the euro and PGA tour talk.

I can happily watch monte and the be better golf guy chew the fat on the golf swing.

Even a longer version of cross field's the swing fix would have been alright .

This just sounds rubbish. Opportunity missed trying to play it safe.

Anyway will watch the next one then bitch a bit more.
 
garyinderry said:
Doesn't bode well this.

Sounds like it's trying to copy a winning formula from soccer am which I can never really be bothered with.

I was hoping for a slightly more serious show talking about the swing local courses plus the euro and PGA tour talk.

I can happily watch monte and the be better golf guy chew the fat on the golf swing.

Even a longer version of cross field's the swing fix would have been alright .

This just sounds rubbish. Opportunity missed trying to play it safe.

Anyway will watch the next one then bitch a bit more.
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What you describe already happens though with Golf World , European Tour Weekly and PGA Tour weekly - why do another one of the same make up ??
 
Mozza73 said:
It seems to be all part of this big exercise to make golf appear more 'fun' to the masses and appeal to those non-golfers who might be tempted to give it a go, never mind the fact that it is on Sky Sports 4 a channel dedicated to Golf watched by already avid golfers who really want a little more content than an ex footballer and DJ dicking around one of the most expensive courses in Buckinghamshire.
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"Dicking Around" pretty much sums up the show.
Golf is a game, 18 holes etc. I don't recall seeing anything actually about the game of golf. Just dicking around, trying to be Wacky zany and toadally crazy.


I'm not his biggest fan but I think Crossfield would make a good lead presenter.
A few celebs who actually play the game, maybe a condensed Vlog round their home course. Challenges etc.
What else would make it work ??
 
I am just trying to suggest actual golf content. It doesn't need to be a full overview of both tours.

I havnt seen those shows but do they have dedicated full length discussions on the actual golf swing, different theories and approaches.

I'd like to see guys do he usual instructional video then actually put it into practice with a couple of high mid and low handicap players. See how they get on with it and what the pros say to help them achieve it. Rather than the usual pro explains it and hits it flawlessly once.

Guest 20 mins clinics with top pros if they have time or even sessions with teaching pros who want the exposure.
 
garyinderry said:
I am just trying to suggest actual golf content. It doesn't need to be a full overview of both tours.

I havnt seen those shows but do they have dedicated full length discussions on the actual golf swing, different theories and approaches.

I'd like to see guys do he usual instructional video then actually put it into practice with a couple of high mid and low handicap players. See how they get on with it and what the pros say to help them achieve it. Rather than the usual pro explains it and hits it flawlessly once.

Guest 20 mins clinics with top pros if they have time or even sessions with teaching pros who want the exposure.
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Which is great for people who want to watch a program about the technical aspects of the golf swing or who want to see someone have a lesson

I suspect that's a small amount of people even golfers who would find that interesting viewing - not really trying to find some fun with the game of golf to get rid of perceived attitudes of the game.

Challenges sounds good , more Celebs with golf stories , look at the pro Ams

Maybe get golf clubs doing a challenge

Aim towards the Soccer Aim model just like Cricket did

There is a gap in the tell schedule for a golf program of this sort but it will be all about finding what works
 
Doesn't seem to have gone down too well on Twitter either.

What I don't understand is how the people that make it,or even people at Sky watched this before showing it & thought it looked any good😳.
 
I think it's a good premise for a show.

Struggled on last nights effort by having David Haye there, which made two separate slots in the show so laboured as he made it all about him. At least have a celeb hacker that plays the game!

Other stuff was a bit of fun - not bad at all.
 
I watched it last night and have to agree about Bullard what an idiot, you can see what they were trying to do but it felt like a golf programme made by and for football fans.
 
Really cringe to watch that


Get some celebs doing match play on the course be better viewing

Some long drives

Funny videos of the public, like guys taking 10 shots to get out the sand


Sack all 3 of the presenters too
 
Watched most of it last night. Format isn't too bad it's just the execution I think has made it a complete mess.

If you swapped out Bullard, just way too OTT and generally annoying, and replaced Haye as a guest with someone who actually plays golf (There's plenty of Celebs out there to choose from lets face it) then I think it would have worked better.

I used to like Bullard on Soccer AM, was a good laugh, but in this format he comes off as being a complete T**t.
 
Total rubbish, the attempts at humour were just cringing. Camera work was useless, could have been better with a mobile phone.

If they want to appeal to young non-golfers they first have to decide if any youngsters actually watch Sky Sports 4 and then make content that includes them!
 
I thought it was OK. But to me they just seem to be trying to recreate YouTube videos with their associated production values on a TV channel that you pay a lot of money to subscribe to. As someone who watches a lot of golf you tube stuff it was a bit disorientating to see Buzza and Coach Lockey in the audience not saying anything and Crossfield a bit of a bit part player. Can't say I was enamored with Bullard, DJ Spoony just reminds me of the story of when Faldo took him along when he captained the Ryder Cup team and none of the golfers knew who he was and surprise surprise, a Sky Sports program has an attractive female presenter.

Fair play to them for producing a golf program that in fairness is not probably aimed at 90% of the people on this forum as they are too old and obsessed with etiquette. But I can't help thinking if you are after that type of program/entertainment then you can get it done much better on You Tube.
 
I don't have Sky (phew) but I was watching a Buzza Golf Vlog last night and afterwards a link came up for Crossfield travelling to this event, yes really! (and I thought that watching paint dry was boring, I urge you not to watch it should you stumble across it) and then bits of the making of the event, these mostly featuring Crossfield.
I felt embarrassed for everybody there, this is out there now and there's no getting away from it for the presenters.

As for encouraging people to take up golf; assuming what I saw was going to be a part of the show, then anybody who has never played before will think it involves riding round on stand-on buggies waving to people, hitting Happy Gilmore type drives and generally acting like a prize dick, they'll be sorely disappointed should they go to a golf course.
Talk about further dragging down the image of golf...

So for non golfers it's a total fail and for golfers it's a total fail.

When will people finally realise that golf always has been, and always will be, a game primarily played by the middle aged to elderly who have the time, the patience and enough spare money to play it and start to target that audience?

Younger players who want to play still will play (and I hope be made very welcome) but golf will never be a sport with street cred.
 
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