chellie
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Will have a look at those, thanks.
Going to the Gym... over 40s
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Will have a look at those, thanks.
AmandaJR
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I have a sweet tooth too Chellie and after tea is when I really want something sweet. I've found a cup of tea with a couple of those iced/sugared ring biscuits or a small piece of very sweet fudge (or both - still less than 100 cals) does the treat nicely.
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chellie
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Cheers Amanda
Orikoru
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I try and eat Yeo Valley greek yoghurt with honey instead of chocolates, I have Pepsi Max with Cherry instead of the full sugar versions. I'm sure they each come with their own drawbacks though. The yoghurt tastes so good that it must have just as much sugar as chocolate anyway.
But I like to pretend to myself that I'm doing good.
Khamelion
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To get the most out of a gym you're better off going with a friend, someone who has the same goals as yourself, you can encourage each other, rip the piss out of each other, support each other and if using free weights, spot for each other.
As for the other gym members who offer advice on correct form, unless it's Eddie Hall then likely best to ignore it.
Now for the contradictory bit on form, lift wieghts that you can comforatbly manage so you can maintain correct form, form departs when you try to to lift/push/pull weights that are too heavy and then when injuries occur.
Eat right and rest well and the results will soon come.
Remember you cannot out train a bad diet.
As for the other gym members who offer advice on correct form, unless it's Eddie Hall then likely best to ignore it.
Now for the contradictory bit on form, lift wieghts that you can comforatbly manage so you can maintain correct form, form departs when you try to to lift/push/pull weights that are too heavy and then when injuries occur.
Eat right and rest well and the results will soon come.
Remember you cannot out train a bad diet.
Mudball
Assistant Pro
Here is the challenge. Have to go to the pub for some post work smooze with colleagues and clients. It’s not planned to be a big night but expect an hour or so. Don’t want to be a tit by ordering non-alcoholic beer or vegan wine. What is the forums’ view on indulgence/cheat days.
BTW I do have a PT session tomorrow so can work off some of it
BTW I do have a PT session tomorrow so can work off some of it
Wolf
Well-known member
Non alcoholic beer or vegan wine doesn't necessarily mean its low calorie so wouldn't necessarily be best choice anyway.
Something like a Vodka & Soda is going to be healthiest choice as its around 97calories per serving, next best will probably be a gin & Slime line tonic roughly 15 calories. Best to be sure it is slimline though as tonic water is often made with corn starches/syrup.
As with any nutrition choice you make though its more prevalent you don't do it to excess.
As for the cheat day thing, that's something I try to re-educate clients on because the term cheat makes us associate things with guilt and causes negative effects on diet and training. Plus don't do a whole cheat day thats just creating a whole day of negativity and tends to make people go to far the other way in the days after by drastically under eating through that guilt complex.. For example if your PT say has you in a calorie deficit of 200 per day 6 days a week, but then on your cheat day you go out and consume 1400 calores extra on your cheat day which is easy done through alcohol, cakes etc then you've negated all that work you did all week.
I prefer getting clients to see them a treat, its a small change in wording but big change psychologically. But instead of having a day of it, you allow yourself 2 treats per week, that way there's more frequency to them meaning less craving and less likely to cave in plus there is no guilt attached. My only caveat is their treat fits into their macros or calorie goals for the day and doesn't take them over. So thay may mean on a day where they have a treat they have to sacrifice a few calories at breakfast or lunch by having a smaller portion but means there treat still keeps them within their goal and no requirement next day or rest of week to work harder or under eat. By doing this they stick to a healthier diet better and stick to their training better as they don't do anything that adversely affects it and they continue to make progress.
Look at it from a golfing point of view, you wouldn't knowingly cheat to improve your handicap, but you may treat yourself to some new equipment that helps to hit the ball better and lower your scores. So don't cheat, just earn yourself a treat ?
stefanovic
Medal Winner
Alternative to the gym is the Sitting Rising Test.
I can do it at 70. If you can't what would be the point of the gym?
I can do it at 70. If you can't what would be the point of the gym?
Wolf
Well-known member
Absolutely ridiculous video, according to his numbers anyone that can't do it will die in the next 6 years. I can do it but know many people fit and healthy that don't have the coordination to do it, my 6 year old daughter can't do it because she hasn't got the coordination. I've worked with amputee athlete's that can't do it because of physical limitations of limbs but will live long lives due to their health and fitness.
Someone ability to stand up hands free doesn't determine their life expectancy.
Plus your last line is answered by the guy in the video, he says go see a trainer and get a work out and flexibility plan to help you get fitter. The video is more likely created by someone looking to boost their own profile and business.
Absolute dross..
Andy
Tour Winner
I should have snuffed it 40 years ago. What a waste of data watching that tadger, never mind believing him.
Leftie
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SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
I just can't be bothered learning how to use the machines...I'd rather spend 20mins on the treadmill and ten minutes on a rowing machine.
backwoodsman
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To be fair, the video doesn't actually say that if you can't do it at all, then you'll croak within 6 years - only that its 5 times as likely . So if you start from , say, a 1% chance, it' still only goes up to 5%.
Still a load of twaddle though ...
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To be fair, the video doesn't actually say that if you can't do it at all, then you'll croak within 6 years - only that its 5 times as likely . So if you start from , say, a 1% chance, it' still only goes up to 5%.
Still a load of twaddle though ...
Wolf
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Use the free weights far simpler to use, far more beneficial than any machine and a whole lot more variety of what you can do
stefanovic
Medal Winner
When the dust settles on your views of the SR Test, let's get a few things clear.
The test was devised in Brazil. It does not claim that if you can do it you'll still be alive in 6 years, but it may improve your chances of staying healthy because your bones act like levers and your skeleton is what keeps you upright.
It will highlight any problems with your balance, as you will lose points if you wobble when going down or back up. It will highlight any problems with your flexibility when dropping down or strength when getting back up.
It has been promoted on the BBC to help people stay healthier into old age. You don't have to score a perfect 10. A lower score and you can still improve. So don't despair if you can't do it straight away. Keep working on it.
I don't attempt it unless I have warmed up by getting into a sitting cross legged position first and then do it on both sides. The only caution is to have something to fall back on if you lose your balance, such as a sofa.
Quote: "The sitting-rising is a simple fitness test designed by Brazilian Claudio Gil Araújo and colleagues (2012) to assess flexibility, balance and muscle strength of seniors. It is a simple assessment of the ability to sit on the floor then rise unaided."
The test was devised in Brazil. It does not claim that if you can do it you'll still be alive in 6 years, but it may improve your chances of staying healthy because your bones act like levers and your skeleton is what keeps you upright.
It will highlight any problems with your balance, as you will lose points if you wobble when going down or back up. It will highlight any problems with your flexibility when dropping down or strength when getting back up.
It has been promoted on the BBC to help people stay healthier into old age. You don't have to score a perfect 10. A lower score and you can still improve. So don't despair if you can't do it straight away. Keep working on it.
I don't attempt it unless I have warmed up by getting into a sitting cross legged position first and then do it on both sides. The only caution is to have something to fall back on if you lose your balance, such as a sofa.
Quote: "The sitting-rising is a simple fitness test designed by Brazilian Claudio Gil Araújo and colleagues (2012) to assess flexibility, balance and muscle strength of seniors. It is a simple assessment of the ability to sit on the floor then rise unaided."
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hovis
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we could debate that all night ?. pros and cons for both imo
Wolf
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Absolutely pro and cons for both, free weight work is still more versatile though. But machines have their place for specific reasons but people put to much reliance on them to often though.
ferenezejohn
Newbie
Why bother with gym fees, just buy a big mirror, job done.
Leftie
Tour Winner
And that's all it is
However, there's no way I would even want to attempt it as I know that getting a zero would not be worth the effort and pain.
As far as fitness though, I'd happily take you on at a game of racketball/squash, shoot 144 arrows, walk 36 holes carrying, or a park run.
tigerwes
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A latecomer to this thread.
My thoughts on the gym as someone who goes quite regular. I don't see much benefit from lifting weights for golf. The golf swing has very little to do with the size of your muscles. Not many pros are very big. What i do find is that playing golf within a few days of a good weight session can be a hindrance, due to the lack of mobility.
What i would recommend is not to push yourself too far with the weight, as all this brings is injuries. I missed the main part of the season last year with a torn bicep tendon from deadlifting. I've also had a traped nerve in my back for over 2 years from shoulder press.
More reps less weight and circuit training is better on the body I find. Though i can't help myself with the heavy weights as its almost part of my job! I just tone it down over the golf season. And mix your workouts up as much as you can.
As for actually going to the gym, don't worry about what anyone else is doing or what they are lifting. But do look out for people doing exercises that you hadn't thought of.
Oh and if you see a squat rack, its not for shoulder press, upright rows or bloody curls. Its for SQUATS!
My thoughts on the gym as someone who goes quite regular. I don't see much benefit from lifting weights for golf. The golf swing has very little to do with the size of your muscles. Not many pros are very big. What i do find is that playing golf within a few days of a good weight session can be a hindrance, due to the lack of mobility.
What i would recommend is not to push yourself too far with the weight, as all this brings is injuries. I missed the main part of the season last year with a torn bicep tendon from deadlifting. I've also had a traped nerve in my back for over 2 years from shoulder press.
More reps less weight and circuit training is better on the body I find. Though i can't help myself with the heavy weights as its almost part of my job! I just tone it down over the golf season. And mix your workouts up as much as you can.
As for actually going to the gym, don't worry about what anyone else is doing or what they are lifting. But do look out for people doing exercises that you hadn't thought of.
Oh and if you see a squat rack, its not for shoulder press, upright rows or bloody curls. Its for SQUATS!
