General play card playing pairs competition matchplay in England

[Larry long dog]

Because CONGU said you couldn't.

You weren’t allowed to put a general play card in? (And have a side INFORMAL, play for a pint matchplay)

 

[rulefan]

You weren’t allowed to put a general play card in? (And have a side INFORMAL, play for a pint matchplay)

CONGU
An acceptable score for Supplementary Score purposes is any authenticated score under Competition Play Conditions in compliance with the conditions listed in this clause and played over either: (a) an 18-hole Measured Course in either Stroke Play or Stableford format

 

[Larry long dog]

It still allowed a general stroke play card to entered….I think the point is being missed here but never mind

 

[Larry long dog]

I’ll continue to put in general play cards whilst having a side match for a beer matchplay.

 

[rulefan]

I’ll continue to put in general play cards whilst having a side match for a beer matchplay.

You say matchplay. Are you putting out on every hole?

I'm not bothered either way but your club/county may be.

 

[D-S]

I’ll continue to put in general play cards whilst having a side match for a beer matchplay.

I assume you will be applying stroke play rules for penalties not matchplay ones?

 

[Larry long dog]

You say matchplay. Are you putting out on every hole?

I'm not bothered either way but your club/county may be.

Of course I’m putting out

 

[Larry long dog]

I assume you will be applying stroke play rules for penalties not matchplay ones?

Of course

 

[rulefan]

I’ll continue to put in general play cards whilst having a side match for a beer matchplay.

So why call it matchplay?

 

[Colin L]

I’ll continue to put in general play cards whilst having a side match for a beer matchplay.

Let’s be clear. You both could play your match and return a score if it is singles match play. Everything being said about it’s not being allowed relates to four ball. As already said your score has to made under stroke play rules.

 

[Slab]

I think I get where Larry is coming from. I’ve often played in a strokeplay comp with a side bet based on fourball format (& scored as a match)

The term ‘fourball’ is used if at all to decide teams for a side-bet, not to set the rules the holes are played under, we may call it a ‘cart bet’ it really doesn’t matter.

The comp is still an individual stroke play played to those rules

 

[Larry long dog]

I think I get where Larry is coming from. I’ve often played in a strokeplay comp with a side bet based on fourball format (& scored as a match)

The term ‘fourball’ is used if at all to decide teams for a side-bet, not to set the rules the holes are played under, we may call it a ‘cart bet’ it really doesn’t matter.

The comp is still an individual stroke play played to those rules

Amen slab!

 

[Colin L]

Amen slab!

Does this mean you have set us all off on giving you advice about a four ball when in fact you're not actually talking about a four ball?

 

[Larry long dog]

I despair

 

[Steven Rules]

I think everybody is despairing.

Your original question was about "pairs competition matchplay" but it turns out the format you meant was individual general play stroke play.

 

[2blue]

We are involved in a game that has to be played in a very specific way so it's quite incredible to hear folk say "You're being a bit fussy there, aren't you?" when they are asked to explain why they are moving away from those requirements. For me, that is the difference between a "GOLFER" & a 'recreational golfer'. There are loads of them playing in the same Clubs but their attitudes are miles apart, even though the game of golf, it's rules, it's traditions, it's culture etc provides a model for everyone. Are they all just THICK.... or LAZY? Which ever, for me, they are the most annoying thing about Golf Clubs

 

[Colin L]

I despair

You asked for some help about handicapping rules in a rules forum. You got helpful and accurate answers which you didn't like and proceeded to disparage. Perhaps a polite thanks everyone would have been a better response.

To repeat the basic and simple answer: a score made in the course of playing four ball or pairs or better ball or whatever you want to call it, whether match play or stroke play, is not acceptable under CONGU rules.

You are free to dislike it, free to think it's daft and free to disregard it and return unacceptable GP scores. But you might be a bit more appreciative of those who have taken the trouble to explain the situation to you.

 

[Larry long dog]

I think everybody is despairing.

Your original question was about "pairs competition matchplay" but it turns out the format you meant was individual general play stroke play.

No. Clearly need to work on my articulation.

My original question was answered in #2-no issues there.

All my other responses are in relation to #9.

 

[Colin L]

All my other responses are in relation to #9.

Quite so. And that's when it all started to go wrong. But no matter.

 

[backwoodsman]

I fear someone does not appreciate the difference between four players going out in a casual group - and perhaps dividing themselves into a random side 'bet' - and those going out as a Four Ball which the rules define to be a specific form of team play.

I reckon I know where the misunderstanding lies.