General play card playing pairs competition matchplay in England

[Larry long dog]

Is it allowable? I understand it isn’t for a ‘friendly’ (playing against another club).

I know people have already expressed their views historically as to why they prefer not to combine the 2 in singles format (which I know is allowed), but couldn’t see anything about pairs?

Ta

 

[D-S]

No, acceptable cards must only be played in individual strokeplay format.

 

[Larry long dog]

Thanks. I couldn’t find a link to confirm that. Are you able to post it please? Thanks

 

[Colin L]

WHS Rules give National Associations the authority to decided what formats are acceptable. Rule 2.a
CONGU determined to continue as before with only singles stroke play providing acceptable scores.
G2.1a(1). Guidance on The WHS Rules of Handicapping as Applied Within Gb&I

https://static.sct.dotgolf.co.uk/clubs/1000/uploads/files_and_docs/whs/handicapping-advice-scotland-v1.7.pdf

 

[Larry long dog]

Link suggests Scotland? Or same in England? Sorry for coming across as pedantic

 

[D-S]

Link suggests Scotland? Or same in England? Sorry for coming across as pedantic

Same in England - you can download the same (English version) document from the England Golf website.

 

[rulefan]

Link suggests Scotland? Or same in England? Sorry for coming across as pedantic

It also applies England, Wales & Ireland (ie the CONGU area)

Version 1.7
England, Wales and Ireland Version

 

[Larry long dog]

Great thanks

 

[rulie]

I wonder how many informal four ball games are played in groups where someone is going to enter a general play card?

 

[Larry long dog]

Don’t see anything much wrong with that tbh???

 

[rulefan]

Don’t see anything much wrong with that tbh???

Advice?

 

[Colin L]

Don’t see anything much wrong with that tbh???

Four ball involves sides of two players and so partners can give each other advice. The person who is submitting a score has to play by the Rules for a singles player i.e no giving, taking or asking for advice.

 

[Larry long dog]

I’ve done exactly this and never given/received advice. Informal means exactly that-chucking balls up and playing for a post match beer. Jeez

 

[Colin L]

I’ve done exactly this and never given/received advice. Informal means exactly that-chucking balls up and playing for a post match beer. Jeez

You were asking about a player who, in the course of your informal four ball, intends returning an acceptable score for handicapping which, for him makes it a formal matter. In any case, he is playing in a format which permits partners to give advice. That you haven't done so is irrelevant; the point is that it can be done.

 

[Larry long dog]

Not sure you read the title of the thread - ‘competition’ (not informal) but thanks anyway

 

[D-S]

I’ve done exactly this and never given/received advice. Informal means exactly that-chucking balls up and playing for a post match beer. Jeez

I believe it was you who used the word informal in the above post. The point still stands that informal or in a competition, a round not played in individual strokeplay format is not acceptable for submission for handicap (apologies for the double negative).

 

[Larry long dog]

So let me get this right. I wish to enter a general play card (and so might well my playing partners). We throw the balls up for a bit of ‘informal’ matchplay no advice given (still hole out everything). You’re saying I can’t do both? Really?!?! Game is gone.

 

[rulefan]

So let me get this right. I wish to enter a general play card (and so might well my playing partners). We throw the balls up for a bit of ‘informal’ matchplay no advice given (still hole out everything). You’re saying I can’t do both? Really?!?! Game is gone.

Were you ever able to do that prior to WHS and return a score for handicapping?

 

[Larry long dog]

Were you ever able to do that prior to WHS and return a score for handicapping?

Why wouldn’t you have been?

 

[rulefan]

Why wouldn’t you have been?

Because CONGU said you couldn't.